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Sigh.. What can we do?

judylu(Judy)

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Canada has plenty of problems too. But these things are beyond our control. We pay half of income in tax, but they are not all used on public services, 40% is used to pay the interest for huge national debts. The country is losing competitive edge, manufacturing sectors, plants are moving out to low wage, low tax Mexico and China and others. Everything in shopping malls is made in China. Industry after industry are wiped out by cheaper foreign goods. Young people can not find decent jobs to lift them up. They can not earn enough income, learn enough skills by working at McDonald's. In the 70's, a father worked alone to comfortably support a family of six, childrens buy their own homes in their early 20s. Now, young people can only afford to live in their parent's basement, a couple has to both working to support one child. Decline in living standard is terrible. And it will only continue to go down. Sigh.. As a consolence, the deterioration does not only happen to new immigrants, it affects everyone, native people included.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

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you can apply it first, then make a choice. -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001-7-6 (#122443@0)

谢谢你的第一个答复，才贴出来２分钟：） -loki(loki); 2001-7-6 (#122444@0)

He is a warmhearted man. :-) -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001-7-6 (#122445@0)

thanks, you are a cool guy! -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001-7-6 (#122446@0)

互吹呢 -guest:; 2001-7-6 (#122448@0)

不 -guest:yzhnl; 2001-7-28 {6} (#148108@0)
不应该

上面两位大兄弟，客观的说，加拿大好吗？ -loki(loki); 2001-7-6 (#122450@0)

有得有失,各人情况不同,反应也不同,我还没在这里生活过十年八年的,所以很难评论.至少在开始的一段时间比较辛苦,而且FEEL BORING.我是为了使生活变化多一些,经历多一些才来的. :-) -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001-7-6 (#122456@0)

如果你在加拿大呆烦了怎么办？人总有腻烦的时候，那时还能容易回国或者是走别的什么路吗？ -loki(loki); 2001-7-6 (#122463@0)

为什么不可以呐?学会放弃也是人生的一种境界,有放弃也有所得 -- 只要对得起自己就可以了 :-) 如果你看过我以前写的LANDING经历,你会发觉我来了三天就想回家了 -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001-7-6 (#122469@0)

In my opinion, canada just soso. Life here is more relux and more quiet, if you get a job. that also means here more boring -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001-7-6 (#122466@0)

relux?????????? -guest:; 2001-8-5 (#156556@0)

华为的吧？？哈哈！ -tea(tea); 2001-7-6 (#122748@0)

呵呵，估计不是华为的就是中兴的啦~ 给loki一个建议：还是出去读书吧。如果厌倦了现在的生活就换换环境好了:) -antmm(antmm); 2001-7-7 (#123030@0)

还是别移了，如果现在让我重新选择，我是肯定不会移民的，在国内过的好好的，现在移到加拿大来打工，收入大不如国内，且加拿大没什么娱乐的，如果是单身的话，日子更难打发，老婆也不好找 -guest:沙; 2001-7-6 (#122447@0)

mei she me yu le de?????????? -guest:; 2001-8-5 (#156558@0)

一个人?那就移吧,要是有女朋友,最好结了婚在移.不然就相我现在这个样子,男朋友在国内,看者别人成双成对,自己行单影孤的,真可怜. -vivianwang(纤云); 2001-7-6 (#122471@0)

赶快回去结婚,办团聚,迟则生变. -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001-7-6 (#122476@0)

他变还是我变?我想都不会吧. 还有刚来就可以回去结婚么? -vivianwang(纤云); 2001-7-6 (#122477@0)

可以的.我是来了4个月后回去结婚的......在机场我见到她却发现想不出什么话说了...... 这不,我又做了半年的MBA :-( -flying_snow(飞雪浮冰); 2001-7-6 (#122486@0)

你，MBA？，哼，当心点，告诉你LP,,, -moonriver(moon river); 2001-7-6 (#122540@0)

他变还是你变?我想都很可能。飞雪兄说的是真知灼见。另，港来当然可以回去结婚，没任何限制。但我个人意见，你还是别着急结婚。你们的感情可能还没到结婚的地步，要不然他也不会让你一个人来创世界。痴人妄语，别当真。 -macsym(日进斗斤); 2001-7-6 (#122495@0)

斗金兄所言极是！ -tea(tea); 2001-7-6 (#122737@0)

why he didn't come with you? -lynx(jane); 2001-7-6 (#122530@0)

同行,工作难找 -ralph(Flyingsky); 2001-7-6 {148} (#122490@0)

我在国内也是作数据通信的,满以为学的是先进玩意儿,工作还不轻松搞定,哪知道.........55555555,难找!

至于是否出国,我认为完全看个人.喜欢就行,当然要吃苦.

我的感想供你参考。 -heater(肠子); 2001-7-6 {349} (#122726@0)

我为了移民至今花费3万多。可移不出去我也认了。为什么？外语提高了。为什么提高了？因为有目标。人都有惰性。尤其是我。可一旦有了目标，学习的劲头空前高涨。你一旦外语整体水平高居其他人之上，尤其口语提高到真正的流利的程度，你的自信心倍增。即使不出国，在国内的身价也抬高了，你可以去外企，以你流利的口语和你的老板讨价还价。还愁什么？还怕挣不了原来成倍的年薪？

原来就已经15万了，再翻番就30万了，国内不太容易吧？ -linnet(会飞的鸟); 2001-7-7 (#122990@0)

yi? 会飞的鸟呀，你也在这呀？xixi -antmm(antmm); 2001-7-7 (#123031@0)
也怪我说的不够准确。可以这样讲：如果你外语出色，同样挣15万的年薪，就不必象原来那样累死累活。而且使你的衣领更白。 -heater(肠子); 2001-7-7 (#123052@0)

我有一个朋友去年10月份登陆加拿大,今年5月返回,因为他在加国没办法练习英文,所以要回国学好英语再去加拿大. -baobeibei(baobaobei); 2001-7-10 (#126315@0)

为什么没有机会在加学英语，在国内学英语会比在加拿大学得好？？， -bolomi(bolomi); 2001-7-28 (#148030@0)

因为加拿大的中国人很多很多，多的以至于没什么机会说英文。 -baobeibei(baobaobei); 2001-8-3 (#154674@0)

Are you kidding?????????? -guest:; 2001-8-5 (#156560@0)

No -baobeibei(baobaobei); 2001-8-7 (#158455@0)

肠兄的意见很中肯，谢谢你！ -loki(loki); 2001-7-7 (#123008@0)

在我看来，似乎：包括我的一些同学在内的深圳打工者尽管挣的多一些，但活得很苦很累。于是大抵想通过移民或别的方式改变一下。结果生活倒是改变了，只不过不是向好的方向变。 -heater(肠子); 2001-7-6 (#122742@0)

Sigh.. What can we do? -judylu(Judy); 2001-7-6 {1042} (#122757@0)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Canada has plenty of problems too. But these things are beyond our control. We pay half of income in tax, but they are not all used on public services, 40% is used to pay the interest for huge national debts. The country is losing competitive edge, manufacturing sectors, plants are moving out to low wage, low tax Mexico and China and others. Everything in shopping malls is made in China. Industry after industry are wiped out by cheaper foreign goods. Young people can not find decent jobs to lift them up. They can not earn enough income, learn enough skills by working at McDonald's. In the 70's, a father worked alone to comfortably support a family of six, childrens buy their own homes in their early 20s. Now, young people can only afford to live in their parent's basement, a couple has to both working to support one child. Decline in living standard is terrible. And it will only continue to go down. Sigh.. As a consolence, the deterioration does not only happen to new immigrants, it affects everyone, native people included.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net

把所有的好处.坏处,及你的需要全部列到纸上,然后扪心自问差不多可以找到答案,别人的话可能给你一些资讯..选择是比较痛苦的,那是因为收到欲望的干扰,但你内心真正希望得到的东西内心是很清楚的,抓住她即可. -xianguang(闲逛); 2001-7-6 (#122778@0)

“内心真正希望得到的东西..."怎么变成”她“了？？:))) -wander2001(wander); 2001-7-6 (#122779@0)

不要误会噢,那肯定是比较美好的东西,你说用哪个"她"? -xianguang(闲逛); 2001-7-6 (#122789@0)

If you are good enough , you can come . If you are not , stay in China . {from:thunder.mchh.siemens.de} -guest:Guest; 2001-7-10 {354} (#126437@0)

I don't think you can do anything in Datacom in China . I used to work for the best ATM switch producer in China . And I know what it really is . So , I don't think you have more luck .
As for canada it is beginnig to US . It is the heaven for developer . If you don't agree , that 's because you know nothing or you don't dare to face the truth .

how to measure "good" or not??? -antmm(antmm); 2001-8-5 (#156566@0)

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