I am living in Toronto. I know it sounds like impossible. By the way, it is a junior one bedroom apartment.( not a condo). We are really lucky to live in this small, quiet apartment building. Many of our friends are suprised at this price -rosemary(kitty) @华人论坛:枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of

枫下家园 / 生活杂事 / 各位在Toronto的同胞，你们一个月的生活费除房租外要花多少钱？包括各种费用，不光是吃饭。请指教。 -guest:guest; 2001-7-29 (#148905@0)

For how many people? 1000 bucks is enough for a 3-people family. -pangpang(babyface); 2001-7-29 (#148909@0)
与其说一个数，不如列种类来，你能更好判断。我当年也是到处找这些数据。 -pigpapa(猪爸爸); 2001-7-29 {824} (#148932@0)
房租：你说不要，就不列了。

食品：
1，方便面：有2毛的，也有一块多的。
2，各种面：块把钱应该有500G吧。
3，鸡肉：小点的鸡腿大概2-3毛一个吧。排骨：2-3块1磅。
4，可乐：24罐7块来钱。
5，米：没买过，不知道。但不可能贵。
6，油盐酱醋：都是2-3块钱的东西。
7，蔬菜：好像贵一点，赶上肉了。
8，汉堡包套餐：4-5块。其他西人套餐：5-8块。中式快餐：3-6块。
一家三口会做饭，大概200-300一个月吧。

交通：
1，月票：升价后是95左右吧。
2，现金：2。25/次。
3，车票：1。80/次。10张起售。
这里的每次指从出发到目的地，中间可免费换车，但不能走回头路，也不能超时。

通讯：
1，固定电话：60左右的一次性安装费，以后每月20左右，市话全免。打中国3毛左右吧。
2，手机：签约1-2年，0机价。每月30以上月费，超额。。。HTTP：//WWW。ROGERS。COM/ HTTP：//WWW。TELUS。COM/
3，INTERNET有免费拨号的。CABLE/ADSL：40/月。

除此之外，都不是必需的。

你为啥不买米? -guest:随便问问; 2001-7-29 (#149397@0)

good question -guest:hahaha; 2001-7-29 (#149400@0)
不好意思，我不会做饭。 -pigpapa(猪爸爸); 2001-7-29 (#149456@0)

真亲切,我也是才学着做的. -guest:随便问问; 2001-7-29 (#149505@0)
买一个电饭锅，把米和水放进去，插上电就行乐 -suantou(蒜头mm); 2001-7-31 (#151500@0)

您当年也是到处找这些数据, 我当年到处找这老些钱. -guest:; 2001-7-29 (#149549@0)

Here is my monthly expense ( a couple without kids): -rosemary(kitty); 2001-7-29 {220} (#149344@0)
Rent: 700/mo
Telephone: 45/mo, Mobilephone: 45/mo, Cable (basic): 25/mo, Hydro: 25/mo, Parking: 45/mo, gas: 120/mo, Car insurance: 90/mo, Long distance call (Call toChina): 25/mo. Grocery: 200/mo, Transportation: 90/mo

where do you live? I guess not in toronto, your rent is so cheap. -guest:; 2001-7-29 (#149378@0)

我房租260，多伦多，便宜吗 -foureyecatcat(飞翔的鱼); 2001-7-29 (#149379@0)

您住家里? -slimpiggy(瘦猪犹如插翅虎); 2001-7-29 (#149384@0)

住街上收260一个月么 -foureyecatcat(飞翔的鱼); 2001-7-29 (#149386@0)

that is fine. haha... -lmich(lmich); 2001-7-29 (#149564@0)

mei ban fa lar -guest:guest; 2001-7-30 {695} (#150534@0)
my rent is $260 one month. i really dont have no money to pay for a better place.

here are my expenses:
rent $260
groceries: $300( i have no car so i do grocery shopping in a super market close to my home. it is an expensive store)
local phone bill: $45
cell phone:$40
long distance phone bill: $100
isp service charge: $40
purchasing clothing: $200
haircut: $30
taxies: $150(sometimes i just really got fed up with travelling by bus)
metro pass:$90
CDs, karaokes, going out for a drink, dinning out, etc, $200

plus i pay $8,000-10,000 tuition fee one year. the difference varies with how many courses i take.

i have been here for 3 years. no job. wo3 ke3 lian2 ba1~~~~`

惨哪,惨!...... -guest:guest; 2001-7-29 (#149484@0)

I have a friend lived around downtwon Toronto, over $900/month, one bedroom. The price varies a lot with locations. -guest:shortVisit; 2001-7-29 (#149406@0)

Yeah, one bedroom suite at yonge and bloor, 1400, that was five years ago by the way -slimpiggy(瘦猪犹如插翅虎); 2001-7-29 (#149417@0)

That's the reason he moved to Ottawa last year. $1400/month can buy a decent house in Ottawa :) -guest:shortVisit; 2001-7-29 (#149427@0)

I am living in Toronto. I know it sounds like impossible. By the way, it is a junior one bedroom apartment.( not a condo). We are really lucky to live in this small, quiet apartment building. Many of our friends are suprised at this price -rosemary(kitty); 2001-7-29 {588} (#149661@0)
and the equipment the it has : fridge (They gave us a new one when we complained that it was too old), stove, Microwave, Air conditioner, cooking hood ( In Chinese, You Yan Ji). And we live in the beaches area where is ten minutes walk from the Lake Ontario.
As far as I know the regular one bedroom apartment in this building is 850-900/Mo, it is equipted with dishwasher, washing machine and dryer. Very nice, and big. What makes me comfortable is since it is a small building, the superintendant knows everybody, he can take care of everything for you even rescue your dogs and cats.

could you kindly tell me where your building is? and i am considering moving. thanks. -guest:snowbird; 2001-7-31 (#151174@0)

485 Kingston road. Superintendant's telephone is 416-693-2576. -rosemary(kitty); 2001-7-31 (#151699@0)

每个月200块Grocery？我两个人DOUBLE一下都不够，而且没敢在外面吃饭，中午也是带便当。日用品也是去WALMART买。 -fionah(fiona); 2001-7-29 {157} (#149452@0)
稍微奢侈一点的开支就是平均每天每人一个苹果，有时买点草莓、西瓜；酸奶；ICE CREAM；前一阵还会在MUFFIN晚八点以后mmMUFFIN特价买6个5.5的MUFFIN，够我们三天的早餐。

天哪, 这也叫奢侈??? -guest:guest; 2001-7-29 (#149487@0)

我觉得她这样挺好的，正说明心理准备充分，在生活没有走上正轨之前一切小心点好。将来回忆起这一段小心翼翼的日子也别有一种情趣。 -luoboyang(萝卜秧); 2001-7-29 (#149494@0)

是这么个理儿 -blooming(彼岸花开); 2001-7-29 (#149501@0)

Agree. -beibei(beibei); 2001-7-29 (#149546@0)

所以我觉得吃200块钱一个月简直是开玩笑！ -fionah(fiona); 2001-7-29 (#149496@0)

还是有可能的，主要看在哪里买东西。 -blooming(彼岸花开); 2001-7-29 (#149503@0)

我觉得还是看到底吃些什么？据我所知，Loblaw、Domino的东西一般比No Frills贵20%-30%，但特价的东西常常比No Frills不特价的时候要便宜。 -fionah(fiona); 2001-7-29 {346} (#149525@0)
比如这周Astro Fat free12合装的酸奶，Domino特价3.77（原价5.99），No Frills是4.27；这周Domino的西瓜3.77/each，实在也很便宜了。我大部分食物都是在No Frills买，肉和一些青菜在唐人街买。No Frills的东西确实便宜，（比如18只装的EXTRA LARGE的鸡蛋），但东西实在也没有Loblaw、Domino新鲜。
没收入就只能这样过日子了。不过，我还是想不通200块两个人一个月怎么吃？

hehe watermelon in nofill today is 2.54 and in pricechopper is 2.97( no seed) -killer(kevin); 2001-7-29 (#149572@0)
准吓你一跳：还有一个女孩子，她说他一个星期只需$20就够了。 -mike2000(风筝); 2001-7-29 (#149584@0)
那种酸奶, 我在No Frills买过2此, 一次是1.99,一次是1.27. -networker(两只老虎跑的快); 2001-7-30 (#150224@0)

我买的是12只小盒装的，不是一大盒。大盒的我一次吃不了。 -fionah(fiona); 2001-7-30 (#150813@0)

我说的是12小盒装的, 买的日期是6月份, 现在总碰不到了. -networker(两只老虎跑的快); 2001-7-31 (#151126@0)

对呀！这几个礼拜loblaws好多东西都很便宜，上几个礼拜valumart上好的大排肉也很便宜。 -guest:; 2001-7-31 {143} (#151360@0)
NoFrills蔬菜肉类不是很便宜。

两个人吃200，我们家五六年前就发现做不到了。唉，自己做，吃不了多少钱，
平时消遣也没什么，嘴巴身体千万别亏待了。

我们夫妇二人每月也就花$250吃饭而且我中午从不带饭都在外吃奇怪为何会差这么多 -guest:; 2001-7-29 (#149653@0)

节省一点一个人一餐LUNCH应该在4-5块，算4.5*20天，也要90了吧。你还要吃早餐、晚餐呢。比如早餐，牛奶这里比国内便宜，一周4升，也要15$了。总要吃其他的吧。 -fionah(fiona); 2001-7-30 (#150830@0)

我们家三个成年人，吃饭每个月500足够了 -guest:; 2001-7-31 {188} (#151356@0)
自己做，吃的还不错，猪肉大排老虎虾水果奶蛋蔬菜都充足，我还常买ice cream和糖果点心。我不常去Chinatown买菜，其实loblaws, dominion, valumart也都常有很好的价钱。只有吃的圆米是在no frills买的。

我们夫妻两人除房租外每月的必须花销大致为： -melodymeng(Melody); 2001-7-29 {117} (#149516@0)
食物：$350 包括偶尔出外用餐，保险：160，汽油：$100，TTC：$95，ADSL：$45，市话：$28，长话：$30，日用品：$30，洗衣：$20

极其精确。但事物350好象不能包出外牙祭。 -guest:yaojian; 2001-7-29 (#149532@0)

看来我也可算得细心的主妇了，但却还是常常被先生称为哈哈太太 ^_^。 -melodymeng(Melody); 2001-7-29 {216} (#149579@0)
食物花销不大的原因可能是因为我们两人不喜欢吃洋人的cheese,butter,cookies 等食物吧，而这些东西往往很贵啊！我们家标准的中晚餐一般是两菜＋一汤＋米饭。我们从不在吃上节省，一般想吃什么就买什么；当然龙虾之流的就吃的很少了。
“快”餐叭。 -guest:; 2001-7-31 (#151364@0)

先生和我都不喜欢吃所谓的快餐，是快餐的敌人。 -melodymeng(Melody); 2001-7-31 {148} (#151639@0)
也许我们一月食物花费不止$350? 不过，不论如何，在这里用于吃的花费所占比重不算太多。我们两人在外用餐一次大约$30左右；如果是下午茶之类，$20就差不多了。

The following are my monthly expenses (A Couple without kids) -guest:HAHA; 2001-7-30 {385} (#149777@0)
The following are my monthly expenses (A Couple without kids)
Mortgage CAD$1300, Property TAX: CAD$300
Hydro + Gas = around CAD $ 150 to $250 (Up to the season)
CABLE + CABLE Internet = (60 + 39.95) *(1+GST+PST)
2 Cell Phones + Local Phone around CAD$100
Car Insurance + Car Loan =CAD$600
Foods and eating-out costs me CAD$500 a month.
BTW, I have been here for almost 6 years.

I have the similar expense, plus i have a baby, so another 1200/month for live-in nanny -guest:; 2001-7-30 (#150176@0)
你的日常开销就要三千以上，够不少的，万一被lay-off就惨了。 -guest:guest; 2001-7-30 (#150508@0)
IMHO, ur last line has nothing to do with ur expenses. I've been here for longer time, hehe, and I know many aged couples from China, who've been here for >12 yrs and hv good&stable income, spend less than u:P -guest:; 2001-7-31 (#151369@0)

our expense(couple with a kid) -guest:guest; 2001-7-30 {339} (#150217@0)
The following are our monthly expenses (A Couple a kid )
Mortgage CAD$2600(double pay), Property TAX: CAD$350
Hydro CAD $200(summer)-400 (winter)
CABLE CAD$60
2 Cell Phones + Local Phone CAD$100
Car Insurance + Car Loan =CAD$1000
Gas $200
Foods CAD$600
Clothes etc $500
We have been here about 2 years, and we both have work

我替你加了一下，共五千七、八百，两人都挣60K还差不多，厉害。 -guest:guest; 2001-7-30 (#150511@0)

My husband earns about 100k/year, I earn about 70k/year -guest:; 2001-7-31 (#151470@0)

Who take care of your child? You should not foget that, you may hire a person which can get $2000 from you for this. -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2001-7-30 (#150634@0)

My parents are here, taking care of my kid. -guest:guest; 2001-7-31 (#151471@0)

So your expense is not just couple with a kid. -carelesswhisper(无心快语); 2001-7-31 (#151800@0)

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I am living in Toronto. I know it sounds like impossible. By the way, it is a junior one bedroom apartment.( not a condo). We are really lucky to live in this small, quiet apartment building. Many of our friends are suprised at this price

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