haploidus(今剩叹)
A military analyst just returned from touring the Ukraine front and has offered his blunt take on how the counteroffensive is really going.
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Last Updated: 2023-7-23
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枫下茶话 / 和平之路 / 美军专家的乌克兰前线实地调查16点反馈，应该说比较翔实客观。第一条，乌军进攻规模以班排连计，进展以码或米计。第六条，海马斯的作用在俄军反制下已减弱。第七第八条大致可知俄军防守稳固。
-haploidus(今剩叹);
2023-7-23
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A military analyst just returned from touring the Ukraine front and has offered his blunt take on how the counteroffensive is really going.
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既然已经把目前的战局定义为消耗战或者持久战，那就是死磕，直到把对方磕死，但是时间不一定在乌克兰人这一方。即使乌克兰人有破釜成舟的决断，北约和美国因为自身的各种因素，不一定能够接受持久战的状态
-the_dumb_one(悔不该);
2023-7-23
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This includes insufficient quantities of de-mining equipment, air defenses, ATGMs etc.
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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其实2毛也不傻，说白了，给多少💰就干多少活，不会白白送死！
-zzj999(ZT);
2023-7-23
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“保家卫国”，多么崇高的概念。
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2023-7-23
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岁月静好的某一天，自家住的公寓楼突然被从天而降的俄国导弹炸了，你说乌克兰人是保家卫国，literally 没错，就是保家卫国。
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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呵呵, 多听听多看看, 预计到今天的战况不奇怪. 就是有些乌粉不服不忿的 :)
-killer(十步杀一人千里不留行);
2023-7-23
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现在有个新词叫“乌贼”
-haploidus(今剩叹);
2023-7-23
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谢谢指点, 我都忘了.
-killer(十步杀一人千里不留行);
2023-7-23
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被抓到戰場上去打仗的大部分都是普通老百姓而已，真正有錢有權的早就能跑了。
-walkonice(walkonice);
2023-7-23
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现实世界上, 有钱的早就跑了, 没钱也跑了. 反正我现在没看到乌克兰单身妈妈租房的, 来的都是爸爸一起的, 反正都出来了.
-killer(十步杀一人千里不留行);
2023-7-23
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Weapons are important. Without proper weapons, how can we expect Ukrainians to win the war quickly?
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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你不是说有技术炸弹就行了吗？ 除非是自己可以生产你说的proper weapon， 否则早晚的断炊， 还不如早些结束战争少牺牲百姓生命。。。
-guanshui88(约定);
2023-7-23
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There are still no advanced fighter jets. The so-called long range missiles were just aided recently while the range is only 250km.
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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就是雇佣军似的代理战呗（北约出武器，二毛出百姓）， 雇佣关系一结束， 不是还要连本带利的还回去（包括大毛的）， 苦的是百姓！
-guanshui88(约定);
2023-7-23
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Well, it's Russia started all these disasters.
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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还等啥，赶紧给F16
-ff2021(码农闰土);
2023-7-23
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It takes time to train the pilots.
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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连飞行员一块儿送呗，要想给总会有办法，招退役的当雇佣兵，组织人民志愿军，朝鲜战争中国苏联都玩过的招数。
-ff2021(码农闰土);
2023-7-23
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就拍F16都不行, 估计至少F35才行.
-killer(十步杀一人千里不留行);
2023-7-23
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杀鸡蔫用牛刀
-uws(United We Stand);
2023-7-23
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嘴上你最N
-killer(十步杀一人千里不留行);
2023-7-23
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还在等着看豹２的实际作战性能呢，有这方面的战果吗
-opulus(opulus);
2023-7-23
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彻底退出了战斗, 否则战损太大了.
-killer(十步杀一人千里不留行);
2023-7-23
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