honestly, the tone is sincere.~ You see, no.5 is difficult enough for me to grasp, so you have good reason to have my admiration.

lifesucks(先进性教育)

I have indicated in previous discussions that I listen to very little music written after 1890's, which is partly why I'm not entirely too comfortable with Mahler's music. His musical language is relatively alien to me compared with that of, say, Brahms. Although both composers wrote very personal music, I somehow have a profound affinity to Brahm's melancholic and introspecitive characters. Perhaps, when I become 50 or older, I will probably get the hang of Mahler's music, because it really takes experience of a lifetime to understand Mahler.

Thanks, you brought up a good discussion~

(#2532065@0)
Last Updated: 2005-10-1
This post has been archived. It cannot be replied.

中文成人版： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529676@0)

“肚子饿了liao，肚子饿了liao，要吃饭，要吃饭，吃饭没有大鱼，吃饭没有大肉，只有汤，只有汤。”哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈。。。。。。 -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 (#2532009@0)

中文耳朵尾巴儿童版：

-muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529677@0)

嘴巴尾巴版，眼睛嘴巴版，等等，不另。 -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529678@0)

本人一直以来的唱词是“两只老虎，两只老虎，跑得快，跑得快，一个没有尾巴，一个没有脑袋，真奇怪，真奇怪。”脑子里想着一只没有脑袋的老虎周围乱跑，觉着是够奇怪的了。;-) -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529679@0)

对了，有时还会把老虎唱成是老鼠。 -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529680@0)

英文法文版Are You Sleeping (Frere Jaques)： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529681@0)

歌词： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 {340} (#2529682@0)
Are You Sleeping (Frere Jaques)

Are you sleeping, are you sleeping?
Brother John, Brother John?
Morning bells are ringing, morning bells are ringing,
Ding ding dong, ding ding dong.

French Version:
Frere Jacques, Frere Jacques,
Dormez-vous? Dormez-vous?
Sonnez les matines, sonnez les matines,
Ding ding dong, ding ding dong.
这首歌的来由： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529683@0)
挖，真是启蒙教育有方啊！ -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529684@0)

这段音乐亦是马勒的《第一交响曲》中的主题： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529685@0)

在BBC Radio的网站可以听到完整的马勒的《第一交响曲》： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529686@0)

马勒的《第一交响曲》（中文）：

-muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529687@0)

情系马勒（中文）： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529688@0)

马勒（英文）： -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529689@0)

这里要请教专家了：伯恩斯坦的这张马勒一、二号交响乐专辑如何？ -muguanai(木瓜奶); 2005-9-30 (#2529690@0)

Very good~ If you liked Bernstein's style, you would love his Mahler. Special attention to Symphony no.2: I watched his live performance in Edinburgh festival with London SO. Exhilarating! breathtaking! -lifesucks(先进性教育); 2005-9-30 {972} (#2529929@0)
I was awe-struck and jaw-dropped after the magnificent ending ... couldn't speak a word for 2 min .... Completely down on my knees. I am heathen, but that particular moment you feel like being embraced in God's boundless warmth.

I don't get such feelings in the equally famous, but stolid and square, performance by Klemperer. You see, that's the problem with many Austro-German conductors of the past generation. They tend to play everything slowly and in strict accordance with the score, without changes in tempo and dynamic. The end result is more often than never a passionless performance, in which everything is right in place, but when taken as a whole, it just doesn't spark.~~ Klemperer was an archetype. He is great in Beethoven and Brahms, but Mahler is different from the 2 B's and so must be taken differently. Mahler's is highly personal and eccentric music. You need someone with a touch of genius or individual charisma to handle him.

就是说罗卜青菜各有所爱,其实是风格的不同,北美的风格更现代一些,所以年轻的朋友比较多的喜欢,但是我看到Bernstein的style对肖斯塔维奇的作品还行,但是对德奥的,就就觉得另类了~ -njzy("王朔"); 2005-9-30 (#2530372@0)
If a heathen could write as well as you do, I would be more than willing to be a heathen. ;-) I thought that I was a heathen, but I now could only call myself a Hunhun'er. ;-( -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 (#2532023@0)
I haven't listened to Mahler's No. 2. However, I felt my pulse from Mahler's No. 5. -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 (#2532024@0)

You have my deep reverence~ I have always venerated people who appreciate Mahler's symphonies other than no.2, specially when it comes to no.6, 7 and 9. partly becuase i think no.2 is the most accessible one. -lifesucks(先进性教育); 2005-10-1 (#2532048@0)

I am scared by your comment partly because I've only had access to No. 1 and No. 5 as yet. I'm not quite sure how I should take the tone in your compliment, but I will get to his other pieces. ;-) -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 (#2532057@0)

honestly, the tone is sincere.~ You see, no.5 is difficult enough for me to grasp, so you have good reason to have my admiration. -lifesucks(先进性教育); 2005-10-1 {602} (#2532065@0)
I have indicated in previous discussions that I listen to very little music written after 1890's, which is partly why I'm not entirely too comfortable with Mahler's music. His musical language is relatively alien to me compared with that of, say, Brahms. Although both composers wrote very personal music, I somehow have a profound affinity to Brahm's melancholic and introspecitive characters. Perhaps, when I become 50 or older, I will probably get the hang of Mahler's music, because it really takes experience of a lifetime to understand Mahler.

Thanks, you brought up a good discussion~

"50 or older"?, hey! I'm not that old! ;-) -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 {244} (#2532077@0)
I cannot say I grasp any music at this point. I can only say that I love all the music that "moves" me. Mahler's No. 5 moved me a great deal. I always love this type of "bitter sweet" feel. Quite frankly, you don't get the feel often.

No.1 is not accessible? -klassische(老音乐迷); 2005-10-1 {218} (#2532081@0)
Besides some interesting orchestration, the symphony sounds like one straight from the Beethoven-Brahms school. Especially the third movement, where the nusery song is used. It confirms closely to the sonata structure.

jin tian hui jia chong ting no.1, hehe -lifesucks(先进性教育); 2005-10-1 (#2532085@0)

谈起马勒, 我们都要感谢伯恩斯坦, 没有他的宣传, 也许我们到今天都不知道马勒是何许人. -klassische(老音乐迷); 2005-9-30 (#2531049@0)

当年知道中国人［打倒土豪、打倒土豪、分田地］的歌谱，原来是这首童谣般的名曲，真是shock! -table(桌子来了); 2005-9-30 (#2530386@0)

还有《三大纪律八项注意》的原曲谱，也是一首西洋曲子，这儿懂行的大侠，请给解说解说一下？ -table(桌子来了); 2005-9-30 (#2530427@0)

94, 中国人民解放军军歌也是有某个国家的旋律特征, 就是中华人民共和国的国歌也是充满法国大革命的气息~ -njzy("王朔"); 2005-9-30 (#2530583@0)

这些好歹还挂一个中国人姓氏的作曲家名字，［打倒土豪］啥《三大纪律八项注意》的，可是原封不动地用了原曲，只是填上中文词。 -table(桌子来了); 2005-9-30 (#2530603@0)

有没有《三大纪律八项注意》的原曲谱？请桌子贴一下 -genghis_khan(飞鼠大将军); 2005-9-30 (#2530589@0)
三大纪律八项注意原是大清国的 "皇帝练兵歌". -sailor(我听过你的歌); 2005-9-30 (#2530661@0)

thanks, see herev [至于它是哪个国家的歌曲的问题，仍然有待今后的继续研究。] -table(桌子来了); 2005-9-30 (#2530697@0)

This is GCD version. GMD version should be {打倒 Lie Qiang、打倒 Lie Qiang, Chu Jun Fa} -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2005-9-30 (#2530736@0)
本来就是童谣, 被马勒借用了. -klassische(老音乐迷); 2005-9-30 (#2531053@0)

受益。前几天在MALL里有个洋人的小孩用这个调子唱“here i am”不知有没有这个歌？ -chevron(yy); 2005-9-30 (#2531072@0)

找到一首儿歌的Here I am。可clip太短，听不出来是用这个调子唱的。 -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 (#2532013@0)

Here I Am 歌词： -fangsongfangsong(放松放松); 2005-10-1 {569} (#2532019@0)
Here I am
Yes I am
I will be here in the morning
And I'll be here in the night

Here I am
Oh yes I am
I will be here in the morning
I will be here by your side

Here I am
Here I am
It's all right now, It's all right now
No no you don't have to cry

And all your dreams are closer now

I will hold you 'til the morning
I will hold you tight

And all your dreams are happy ones

I will be here in the morning and
I'll be here through the night
I will be here through the night
I'll be right here by your side

Here I am
http://www.bestchildrensmusic.com/lyrc_str.htm#3

@

honestly, the tone is sincere.~ You see, no.5 is difficult enough for me to grasp, so you have good reason to have my admiration.

Replies, comments and Discussions:

More Topics