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Another article -Cost of Afghan mission being kept secret

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Cost of Afghan mission being kept secret
1 hour ago

OTTAWA — On a desk in bureaucrat's office sits a big number that could blast the Afghan war debate back into front-page headlines.

But voters may not get to read those headlines until after the Oct. 14 election - unless Prime Minister Stephen Harper gives his OK to release a long-awaited report on the true multibillion-dollar cost of Canada's Afghanistan mission.

Kevin Page, Parliament's budget officer, says he would like to release his report but he needs all-party consent. He's worried about interfering with the election.

The NDP and the Bloc Quebecois were tripping over themselves Tuesday to give their approval - and to press Harper to do the same.

NDP Leader Jack Layton quickly wrote a letter to the prime minister.

"The parliamentary budget office has been able to analyze the total actuarial costs extending beyond your stated 2011 end-date; including the ongoing costs of equipment and veteran's care," he wrote.

"I believe it is imperative to release this information immediately. I request you inform the parliamentary budget officer of your party's consent to release."

Layton said the public has right to know how taxpayer dollars are being used.

"An election is no time to start shutting the doors on important public information on a key issue that's facing Canadians as they make their choice," he said at a campaign stop in Welland, Ont.

Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe said it would be "immoral, indecent, irresponsible" for Harper not to allow release of the information.

"It's always important that we know what we're paying, especially when we see that a large majority of Quebecers - and I would say also a majority of Canadians - are opposing the mission in Afghanistan as it is," he said.

"An election is a time to discuss serious questions. War and peace, that is a serious question. The Canadian mission in Afghanistan is a serious question."

Harper wouldn't comment on whether he would give his consent, saying only that the budget officer is independent and "he can make his own decisions."

"But I can tell you that we have very significant provisions for Afghan war and we are not over budget for those," he added in Kitchener, Ont.

The minority Conservative government has estimated the cost of the six-year mission at less than $8 billion. If the new figures - which are believed to be more complete and accurate than previous estimates - are much higher, it could be bad news for Harper.

Polls have repeatedly shown that Canadians are lukewarm to the mission, especially in the key electoral battleground of Quebec where Harper must make gains to have any chance of winning his coveted majority.

Critics suggest cost overruns in the Afghan mission could erase the government's shrinking surplus and put the country into deficit, especially given the economic slowdown.

While Canadians have been left confused about the real cost of the mission, Americans have been bombarded with information about what their wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost.

Money aside, the Afghan mission has been a heavy burden for Canada with 97 soldiers and one diplomat killed.

Canada has more than 2,000 personnel based in the dangerous Kandahar region.

Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was not immediately available for comment.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / Common ground? Liberals, NDP and Greens find one thing to agree on: the Conservatives are bad news for the country
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Email Story Font Size Date: 2008-09-16
    By Lauren Gilchrist
    There is one thing three out of the four candidates in this federal election can firmly agree on -- the Stephan Harper government must go.
    Despite the recent television ads showing Prime Minister Harper in his "extreme makeover mode" wearing blue cardigan sweaters and kissing babies, Liberal candidate Betsy McGregor says the ruling minority Conservative government is a "fend for yourself" type, marred by economic mismanagement and scandal.

    When the Conservative Party took power there was a $13 billion surplus that Ms McGregor says has been "decimated" in just two short years.

    "No other Prime Minister has obliterated a surplus with that speed," she says.

    "The cupboard is bare in two short years and there is no margin for error. We are on the brink of a deficit."

    Ms McGregor says the Conservatives chose to cut the GST, which doesn't lower the tax burden on Canadian families on a daily basis. Now she notes a Statistics Canada report has listed Canada as the worst economy in the G7, the world's seven largest industrial market economies.

    But incumbent Conservative candidate Dean Del Mastro defends his party's record saying they have reduced taxes, have established a firm plan on the environment, are investing in infrastructure and are transferring more money to the provinces.

    "I think obviously we made a number of fundamental changes since we came into government," he explains.

    One of those changes is reducing taxes. Mr. Del Mastro says Canadian families with an average household income of $60,000 are now paying approximately $3,000 less in taxes a year. He says his party has made "huge investments" when it comes to health care and post-secondary education.

    "The health care budget has grown by hundreds and hundreds and millions of dollars," he says.

    Yet Ms McGregor says the Conservatives are not paying attention to health care, have no plan to address poverty or housing, have cut funding to the arts, and have tarnished Canada's image on the world stage.

    "We have slipped a long way from Prime Minister Lester. B Pearson. When he spoke on the floor of the United Nations the world watched Canada," she explains.

    Mr. Del Mastro notes the Conservative government gave $3.2 billion in new transfers to the Province in the 2007 budget and Ontario now gets per capita transfers for education, health care and infrastructure.

    "That has never been in place before. We have been the party that has stood up for Ontario and stood up for fairness. Can more be done? Sure. But we are there for Ontario," he explains.

    He notes in the 2007 budget the government increased funding for post-secondary education by 40 per cent and they also put into place annual increases of three per cent in funding for post-secondary education. He says they are supporting post-secondary education at a level far more significant than any government in Canadian history.

    But NDP candidate Steve Sharpe says the provinces are still not getting a fair cut.

    "They [the Conservative Party] claim they have fixed the fiscal imbalance which isn't true," says Mr. Sharpe.

    He notes the transfer payments to the provinces do not reflect what they really need.

    "The Conservatives are saying the provinces are getting what they deserve now and most of the provinces don't agree."

    Mr. Del Mastro says the Build Canada Fund, the federal government's new infrastructure program is making the largest infrastructure investment since the Second World War.

    "What does that mean locally? We are building a train to Peterborough," he explains.

    Mr. Del Mastro notes under this investment in infrastructure he would also like to see money flow to the local speed skating oval project as well to the Peterborough Municipal Airport and investing in expanding Highway 407.

    "We have made massive investments to infrastructure. It makes Peterborough a much more viable place to conduct and support business," he says.

    When it comes to the environment, Mr. Del Mastro says his party has a plan.

    "We are actually the first government to have a plan," he notes.

    "The previous government has no action plan."

    Mr. Del Mastro says that plans means implementing a national strategy to reduce Canada's total greenhouse gas emissions by 20 per cent by 2020 and also bringing forward elements from Canada's Clean Air Act.

    But Mr. Sharpe says that plan, called Bill C-377 which would make Canada's House of Commons the world's first legislature to adopt science-based targets to slash carbon emissions, was originally brought forward by NDP Leader Jack Layton.

    "There's no question Jack Layton is in favour of a cap-and-trade system," says Mr. Del Mastro.

    But he notes the Conservative Party's plan is to work with industry while "Jack Layton's plan is to come down on industry and punish it."

    Ms McGregor says the Conservatives are "environmentally irresponsible" having been awarded a Fossil of the Day Award two years in row for undermining the United Nations negotiations on climate change.

    She notes the Sierra Club of Canada has also given the Conservative's an F+ for mismanagement of the environment while they have given the Liberal's Green Shift Plan a B+.

    Local Green Party candidate Emily Berrigan says another critique is Prime Minister Harper's decision to remove "equality" from the mandate of the Status of Women.

    "And he has embarrassed us again and again on the national stage, at climate change negotiations, HIV/AIDS, Food and Biodiversity Summits (by blocking progress at all of these), by refusing to sign the UN Declaration on Indigenous Rights, not to mention the despicable display around Omar Khadr," she says.

    Ms Berrigan says the Harper government has a "tyrannical attitude towards the media and free speech."

    "No minister is allowed to open their mouths without pre-approval, and be damned if you dare to speak out against your leader," she says.

    "The Conservative government is not a government for the people and certainly not for the world. Anybody can show leadership. It takes a truly courageous person to show vision and to push for much needed change."

    ptw更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Highlights -When the Conservative Party took power there was a $13 billion surplus that Ms McGregor says has been "decimated" in just two short years.
    • 不明白为什么支持消减政府开支的人会支持Harper
    • Another article -Cost of Afghan mission being kept secret
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Cost of Afghan mission being kept secret
      1 hour ago

      OTTAWA — On a desk in bureaucrat's office sits a big number that could blast the Afghan war debate back into front-page headlines.

      But voters may not get to read those headlines until after the Oct. 14 election - unless Prime Minister Stephen Harper gives his OK to release a long-awaited report on the true multibillion-dollar cost of Canada's Afghanistan mission.

      Kevin Page, Parliament's budget officer, says he would like to release his report but he needs all-party consent. He's worried about interfering with the election.

      The NDP and the Bloc Quebecois were tripping over themselves Tuesday to give their approval - and to press Harper to do the same.

      NDP Leader Jack Layton quickly wrote a letter to the prime minister.

      "The parliamentary budget office has been able to analyze the total actuarial costs extending beyond your stated 2011 end-date; including the ongoing costs of equipment and veteran's care," he wrote.

      "I believe it is imperative to release this information immediately. I request you inform the parliamentary budget officer of your party's consent to release."

      Layton said the public has right to know how taxpayer dollars are being used.

      "An election is no time to start shutting the doors on important public information on a key issue that's facing Canadians as they make their choice," he said at a campaign stop in Welland, Ont.

      Bloc Leader Gilles Duceppe said it would be "immoral, indecent, irresponsible" for Harper not to allow release of the information.

      "It's always important that we know what we're paying, especially when we see that a large majority of Quebecers - and I would say also a majority of Canadians - are opposing the mission in Afghanistan as it is," he said.

      "An election is a time to discuss serious questions. War and peace, that is a serious question. The Canadian mission in Afghanistan is a serious question."

      Harper wouldn't comment on whether he would give his consent, saying only that the budget officer is independent and "he can make his own decisions."

      "But I can tell you that we have very significant provisions for Afghan war and we are not over budget for those," he added in Kitchener, Ont.

      The minority Conservative government has estimated the cost of the six-year mission at less than $8 billion. If the new figures - which are believed to be more complete and accurate than previous estimates - are much higher, it could be bad news for Harper.

      Polls have repeatedly shown that Canadians are lukewarm to the mission, especially in the key electoral battleground of Quebec where Harper must make gains to have any chance of winning his coveted majority.

      Critics suggest cost overruns in the Afghan mission could erase the government's shrinking surplus and put the country into deficit, especially given the economic slowdown.

      While Canadians have been left confused about the real cost of the mission, Americans have been bombarded with information about what their wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have cost.

      Money aside, the Afghan mission has been a heavy burden for Canada with 97 soldiers and one diplomat killed.

      Canada has more than 2,000 personnel based in the dangerous Kandahar region.

      Liberal Leader Stephane Dion was not immediately available for comment.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 看看这个:哈帕政府花钱不是自由党能比。In fact, it is no contest between the Harper government’s spending and that of Mr. Chrétien’s government; the Grits exercised greater fiscal discipline. 真不知道这钱都哪里去了,需要的地方却没有,都到阿富汗去了?
      • Sponsorship scandal! Slush Funds! And.....
        • Corruption is indeed bad. However, it will even worse if somebody want to get the goverment money for some "holy" reason, such as starting a war. I just watched the movie "the kingdom of heaven." It is really a good one.
          • You have a rotten soul!
            • I think I just can not be tricked easily or be bought cheaply!
      • 还债,减税。
        • Harper‘s excuse is exactly the same as that of Bush several years ago! If Harper stays in office, Canadian goverment will definitely run a big deficit in few years.
          • excuse? 钱怎么用的看这里。
        • 还债可是在预算有了结余之后的,harper把钱花光了,那里有什么钱还债。保守党政府高喊减税但是从来不减政府开支,这不是把钱从左口袋放到右口袋,摆明了欺骗选民。
      • 看看自由党支如何持保守党财政预算的。
        • 真正在撤军和财政上有脸说保守党的ndp算一个,自由党根本没脸去说。
    • 楼上给出了英文文章,有关阿富汗战争费用的报告已经出来了,数十亿之巨,就看哈帕能把这个报告压到什么时候。
      • 有什么可压的,阿富汉自由党派的兵。你以为都是免费的。
        • 文章的第一句就说“blast the Afghan war debate back into front-page headlines。” 你的思维确实和别人不一样。
        • 听说很多国家都曾派兵过,现在剩下几个?
        • 难道要等自由党执政才收兵吗?不管是谁派的兵,也不能这样没有收尾方式旷日持久下去。当初如果是哈帕在台上,加拿大不仅会出兵阿富汗,还要出兵伊拉克,两线作战。
          • 您难道没有听说关于撤军的问题自由党和保守党的立场很接近吗?自由党上台就能撤军吗?别逗了。
            • Liberal 'compromise' is really a retreat to Harper's position
    • For the Canadian economy, currently the only thing different is the home price. If the home price startes to go down and, what maybe worse, the oil price go down too much, Canada may be worse!
    • 保守党不等于精简政府开支,不等于高效率, 因为人家有很多外交面子工程要开展, 扩大内需必先让位于扩大外交.
      • 把保守的财务理念和保守党的财务政策混为一谈是最可笑的。 保守党实际是通过向特定受益者减税来拉票。把减税搞成了福利。
        • 有道理,降低2点GST是给“特定受益者减税”的,其他人得不到。
          • 你是参加那一年的选举?柴油税难道不是向特定受益者减税,自雇的EI难道不是福利?
          • GST虽然在加拿大不受欢迎,但是越来越多的国家都在实现消费税,而且,消费税比所得税等公平,harper的做法实际上朝不公平的方向迈进。