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At least I showed some number. Why don't you give me some number? You are making conclusion out of your freaking imigination that's what I call.

The article showed many so called "COINCIDENCE". So give me a fuking break and use some brain if you have one. In addition, my girlfriend and my classmates are all local master students WITH LOCAL JOBS. Their immigration wait time is significantly higher than before (your Conservaive gov't cliams that it's a transition period and election that's why it's longer which in my opinion is a freaking excuse again). So don't give me craps like they want to attract students because they are not as far as I know, THEY ARE NOT.

Now you can choose to use your brain or keep supporting your traditionally racist Conservative party.
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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / IS CONSERVATIVE ANTI-IMMIGRATION? This will give you a hint!
    So for those of you keep saying the Conservative takes care of new immigrant and their immigration policy is better than befor, USE YOUR BRAIN. "Why does it affect me since I am PR or citizen already?" you ask.

    Just imagine what conservative would do to you when they have majority power. They are wolf under sheep shin and they are showing their true form. Vote them today then you suffer tomorrow.
    • You're right. Do not vote for Harper.
      • 哈帕的移民政策: 亚裔入侵和亚裔贫民窟 -- -- 哈帕反亚洲移民历史悠久, 这篇文章说的很清楚了!
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛哈帕的移民政策: 亚裔入侵和亚裔贫民窟


        今年通过的保守党提交的C-50移民修正法案备受争议, 修正后的移民法使移民部长大权在握, 有权限制或减少已经由国会通过的移民配额人数, 有权打破时间顺序, 优先考虑甄选部分申请者。 同时, 对不同国家设置移民限额(QUOTA)等。 保守党称这个法案可以有助于快速有效地清除积案云云。 但广大加国华人不禁会问, 把如此重要大权, 交给劣迹斑斑的哈帕保守党, 大家放不放心呢?


        Asian invade 与 University of billion chinks

        2000年临冬, 选战正浓, 为保守党前身的加人联盟党有一个候选人名叫背缇格兰葛(Betty Granger), 背缇跑到温尼伯大学演讲拉选票, 演讲中竟指亚裔在温哥华唯多利亚上大学念书, 买楼买地为“亚洲入侵”(Asian invade), 这些人不是我们要招进这个国家的最好客人。 背缇这段话是这样说的:

        "Have you been to the West Coast? Oh about five years ago I was out there actually on school trustee business and found myself staying with friends that live there. I call it the Asian invasion, but that might not be the best wording, but nevertheless, the Asian students that have come over to Canada pressured the university system. Our own Canadian students actually could not even get into some of our university programs in Vancouver and Victoria. The land prices, apparently they're buying up blocks and blocks -- a well-monied population buying up blocks and blocks of real estate, building ... like there's a whole economy that (U of W political science department chair) Alan (Mills) was referring to that could occur in Manitoba that is occurring there...We've actually interred some Asian peoples for a year before they were sent back to their homes. I think that problem has been addressed to some degree, but this is problematic not only for immigration, but also for justice issues because there was a realization that what was coming off these boats was not the best clientele you would want to come into this country.”

        当时为电视直播, 引来轩然大波。 事后, 背缇为她种族歧视的言论道歉, 但是她却并没有退出大选。 最后, 背缇仅获该选区8%的选票败选。 加国称之为“亚裔入侵事件”。 又是象Betty Granger这样的西部右翼份子, 蔑称有许多华人子弟上学的卑斯大学(UBC)正变成一所"University of a Billion Chinks"。

        2002年, 哈帕在两次评论“亚裔入侵事件”时候都不但没有谴责Betty Granger, 反而反咬一口, 称她是“低级层次的麦卡锡主义的牺牲品”。 他在电视上是这么说的: “Betty Granger is party president in the Winnipeg area and one of a large number of party presidents that are supporting this campaign. So, I think this kind of thing is just kind of a low-level form of McCarthyism.” (CTV ”Question Period”, February 10, 2002)。

        其实, 现在我们再回过头看, 哈帕挺背就一点不奇怪了。


        Asian ghettoes 与 NCC

        2001年, 记者Kevin Michael Grace问哈帕怎么自由党会在温尼伯以西地区能赢得14个席位, 都是谁投他们票, 他们为什么投自由党? 哈帕说: 因为那里亚裔移民和东加来的移民占多数, 那些住贫民窟和不为西加社会容纳的群体。 他的原话是这样说的:

        ‘West of Winnipeg, the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from Eastern Canada; people who live in ghettos and are not integrated into Western Canadian society.’

        事实上, 哈帕背缇并没有脱离保守党的移民路线, 哈帕对亚洲移民充满种族主义的思维, 主要来源一个叫 National Citizens Coalition (NCC), 哈帕曾在98-02年间担任该组织的主席。 该组织是在六十年代末由一个叫Colin M. Brown的安省南部富翁建立, 以反对加政府的公共医疗政策。 该组织歧视黑人和妇女, 大亨到美国南部度假的富豪俱乐部至今仍然是禁止黑人和妇女进入的。 七十年代又以反亚裔移民而臭名昭著, 反对亚裔移民的加拿大著名记者 Diane Francis 是NCC的常客贵客。

        90年代, 哈帕对NCC十分信服, 他曾称“NCC的日程是对我的一个指引...(the agenda of the NCC was a guide to me)。 NCC主席David Somerville回应称 改革党(Reform Party, 哈帕当时领导的党)剽窃了我们的政策书可能有三分之二(“cribbed probably two-thirds of our policy book.”)。

        1997年, 哈帕宣布放弃议员身份, 去接手NCC。 他称自己是NCC的长期支持者。 1998-2002年, 哈帕当了四年NCC主席。 2002年, 哈帕离开NCC去竞选加人联盟党主席, 他解释这样做的原因是因为害怕国会里没有NCC的声音。 他是如是说的: “feared that if I did not do this, the NCC would find itself again alone or at least without any allies in the Parliament of Canada.” 的确, 如果我们看保守党对公共医疗, 社会福利等政策, 基本上就是NCC主张的那一套。

        NCC和华人的第一次交手是79-80年NCC一手策划的“反击越南船民入侵案”, 试图阻止因越南排华而出走该国的越南华侨留在加国。 那你是不是以为他们仅仅不希望加国接收太多难民呢? 看官你又错了, 因为他们对50年代的匈牙利难民潮的态度却截然不同。 NCC的创始人Colin M. Brown的讲话正好为他们的移民政策作了最好的注脚和为哈帕的贫民窟说法找到根源: “I think the Hungarians have made marvelous citizens,” Brown declared, “but the bloodlines run the same way. We all come from Europe so they fit in. You wouldn’t know if the people next door to you are Hungarian or not. They don’t all go and gather in a ghetto.” (大意是匈牙利人能成为很好的公民, 我们有相同的血缘, 都来自欧洲, 他们不都聚集和居住在贫民窟)。

        西方有一句话用来形容一种选民, 叫做“给肯德基上校投票的小鸡(Like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders)”。 你要不要做这只愚笨的小鸡呢?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • WHITE TRASH will do no good to us after all.
    • 给点片面的数据,就能得出保守党排斥移民的结论吗?看看移民部的处理时间,发达国家本来就快,穷国一直慢。中国申请人等待时间大约是60个月,和其他贫困国家相差无几。批准的人数少大概和申请人减少有关。
      保守党政策是吸引留学生。不过是倾向于这一部分学生移民,比较不利于成年人的技术移民。整体来讲,并没有排斥移民的概念。

      加拿大人口老龄化,每年都期望新移民来工作,纳税,排斥移民根本就是不可行。不过是在不同的群体之间选择而已。
      • At least I showed some number. Why don't you give me some number? You are making conclusion out of your freaking imigination that's what I call.
        The article showed many so called "COINCIDENCE". So give me a fuking break and use some brain if you have one. In addition, my girlfriend and my classmates are all local master students WITH LOCAL JOBS. Their immigration wait time is significantly higher than before (your Conservaive gov't cliams that it's a transition period and election that's why it's longer which in my opinion is a freaking excuse again). So don't give me craps like they want to attract students because they are not as far as I know, THEY ARE NOT.

        Now you can choose to use your brain or keep supporting your traditionally racist Conservative party.
        • 加拿大移民申请处理时间的链接。把中国和其他贫困国家比较一下,就可以看出没有什么歧视。
          • Please make the analysis for us. I don't understand your freaky mind and what you are trying to say. Go compare white with non-white. I only speak from my personal expereince and you speak from govenment manipulated number. Good job.
        • 文章说有些国家增长40%,并没有给出具体数据。如果基数很小,多10个人可能就是40%了。没有完整的数据,单凭那个文章不说明任何问题。
          • You are not only an idiot but also blind. They showed number 5,000+ and 10,000+. Go get a glass.
            • 这个要看申请人数。申请人数减少的国家,自然得到的配额也少。你在台上,你也会这么做,否则就不公平了。
      • BTW, Chinese immigrations are poor? Go out more please because I think you are living in the cave.
        The only poor Chinese immigrants are those FLG and ZD dumb asses who are supported by the Conservatives (these people get their immigration pretty fast you idiot). All other chinese immigrants are above average and definitely not poor.
        • One's thinking is a reflection of one’s life. Losers mirror others the way they see themselves.
          • When somebody calls other idiot, he/she is a idiot in the first place.
            • AN Idiot
            • Before posting, check and check again. No spelling and grammatical MISTAKES.
            • I may give you free tutorial on how to write proper English.
              • Thanks.
            • Not really, I say someone is an idiot by providing evidence. For example, you are an idiot and a fucking Nazi because of your fucking user name.
              • you are so nasty! so rude!
                • And one should be polite to Nazi. Yes indeed.
              • When somebody want to fuck others, he/she is actually fucking him/herself and his/her parent!
                • Not interested in fucking nazi. You will foul my penis. Your asshole stinks.
              • fuck off.
                • You can fuck yourself.
                  • How about fuck your mother?
                    • No, No, No, I am not interested in your mother, she must be too old. I will hire somebody, who is very hungry in sex to do it.
                      • Ya... good job Nazi. I bet my mom will live sound and safe because all Nazi are pervert but chicken shit. If I don't see your fucking hired pervert or you before tomorrow, it means you have no penis and a fucking loser.
        • 中国是贫穷国家,这和申请人的富裕程度无关。
          • 我觉得和贫富有关系,但最有关系的是那个国家的政体和人们的政治觉悟,南亚国家比如印度,巴基斯坦等等,比中国穷,教育比中国落后,但他们移民这里参政热情很高,估计和他们本国的体制有关。中国人没有办法,无论如何被共产党把持着,没有什么选举的意义,人们淡漠了
          • Applicants are rich has nothing to do with poor original nationality. And you point is?
    • Yes, Vote for Conservative Today!
      • (#4711208@0)
    • 无论如何,我们家是老公选保守党,我选自由党了,我们不能让自由党上台,但也不能让保守党成为多数党,嘿嘿,如果选举近了,民意调查发现保守党可能成多数党,我会说服老公选自由党
      • 支持,I fear a majority conservative government too.
        • 民意调查说JACK LAYTON人气最高,而我最不喜欢他,觉得他和DAVID MILLER一个样,嘴巴甜,不行动,嘿嘿
          • He is union's lap dog. If you are an union member, you should support him.
            • 不是所有的UNION 成员都支持他的,嘿嘿
              • Well, union should. All politician should do things for people support him/her. From this perspective, it is correct for Jack Layton be left wing and speak for unions. Same thing applys to Conservative or Liberal.
                If you are rich and white and NAZI, you should support conservative becasue conservative does things for these supporters. If you are middle class, you suppose to support Liberal.
                • 理论上是这样的,但大选时候的誓言,在当选以后能不能实现很难说,因为这里毕竟不是一人说了算,而且政府还是重视民意的
                  • Not really. All polls say that Canadian wants troops out of Afganasan. Yet all the troops are still there. Both conservative and liberal say they will stay there. Democracy is broken because people are still powerless.
                    • 没有ALL POLLS吧,最多也不过40%多一些。而且人民怎么POLL和人民怎么选举也可能是两码事了。如果那么多人都不满意HARPER,为什么还是POLL还是说,保守党优势稳固,保守党再次当选无疑。这说明,真正关心驻军的人没有POLL显示的那么认真
                      • Why don't you check what's the percentage says they want the troops to stay? I rephrase: There are more Canadians who want the troops out.
                        • 也许我看到的和你不一样。嘿嘿,不过就算多数POLLS或者ALL POLLS都要撤军,人们还是要再选HARPER当总理,为什么?YOU GO FIGURE IT OUT, LOL
                      • And conservative still in power because of stupid Dion. I can't understand why that stubbornd idiot is Liberal leader.
      • 有道理. 要是哈总理变多数政府, 哪天他要跟着老美打伊朗就每人能阻止了.
    • 移民太多了,该stop了
      • Yeah, the first thing they should do is deport you. That will solve some problem.
    • 当年的移民评分制度始于1960年保守党时代,彻底结束了移民歧视。大家看看历史就知道保守党对移民的生活是更关注和人道的。自由党是很会吹嘘的政党,很多左派的作风也是如此。保守党很务实,所以我很欣赏。
      • 60年代的保守党基本上是东岸红保守党。现在的保守党和以前的保守党不是一回事。哈珀曾经退出过以前的保守党。前后关系要搞清楚。
      • I don't know where you got your history. But truth is truth. Please read the whole thing and explain the coincidences for me. Also check this analysis on history.