Topic: 看看Sarah的家庭，如果放在苏维埃俄国她就是一个“英雄母亲”了，生五个孩子，大儿子马上要上前线为国做战，最小的女儿先天愚型。不管民主党说怎么说她没有外交经验，都不能否认她肯定能得到不少女选民的认同，比如家庭主妇，工作母亲ETC, zt- @华人论坛:枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of

枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 看看Sarah的家庭，如果放在苏维埃俄国她就是一个“英雄母亲”了，生五个孩子，大儿子马上要上前线为国做战，最小的女儿先天愚型。不管民主党说怎么说她没有外交经验，都不能否认她肯定能得到不少女选民的认同，比如家庭主妇，工作母亲ETC, zt- -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-8-30 {2205} (#4652548@0)

基本点：这是选出去当总统的...现在这个一搞完全变成了选idol... -sksd(S_K_S_D); 2008-8-30 (#4652554@0)
美国大选比好莱坞电影还有趣，刺激。 -fishlover(鱼人); 2008-8-30 (#4652559@0)
基本同意.不过,Palin对争取右派和中间选民的影响远大于对左派女性. 她的性别只是锦上添花. 而她的出现会让人记住Hillary取得多数选票却被搞下的悲观. 不过, 这次选举的中心MS以变成她了. 好看! -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-30 (#4652638@0)
麦凯恩选佩琳做副手是一着妙棋 - ZT from excel -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-8-31 {3663} (#4653649@0)
she is way too right for me -mikesmith(老猫); 2008-8-31 (#4653758@0)

BTW, I am a liberal who voted for the conservatives for quite a long time. -mikesmith(老猫); 2008-8-31 (#4653770@0)

Glad you voted for conservative from time to time. I guess what matters is right and wrong, not right and left. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-31 (#4653870@0)

whats important is the policy and the person. I dont care that much about ideology of left or right. mostly I am in the middle. -mikesmith(老猫); 2008-8-31 (#4653970@0)

Interesting. Lately, Obama was asked about when the baby in mother’s womb has the right of a human being. He replied “that is above my paygrade”. What is your answer to that if you were in his chair? -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-31 (#4653998@0)

well, I am no comparison to Obama. I can't give his answer. But this is my feeling about this question when I am not in his shoesIt is a difficult choice for anyone to make. The woman in question has the final say about her choice after the upmost thorough consideration; and that choice should be respected and supported by her family and community. Whether pro-life, or pro-choice, it is a personal matter and I understand the view points from either side. As for the questions of "right", I will say everyone has a right to make his/her own choice. -mikesmith(老猫); 2008-8-31 {424} (#4654031@0)

Well. The question is not about the mother, but the baby. That is at what time during pregnancy, the child possesses the right of living like another other human being, instead of mother's will. I think everyone should have an answer to it,including the president. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-31 {24} (#4654049@0)

To me, it is when the first time the baby's heartbeat can be heard. It is an easy question. So I do not understand why it is so difficult for some people to answer. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-31 (#4654059@0)

it may not be a scientific answer though. The mind is related to the brain, not the heart. Do we know when he/she starts to have a soul? -mikesmith(老猫); 2008-8-31 (#4654061@0)

Your answer might be different from mine. But I still like to hear it. Besides, I do not mind Obama giving different answer. But it is strange he could not give one. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-31 (#4654073@0)

My answer is that the mom should consult with her physician and makes her own mind. No one has the knowledge, or can make a decision for the person in question. We just DO NOT know enough yet. -mikesmith(老猫); 2008-8-31 (#4654125@0)

Thanks for your answer. I think you are effectively saying the child has no right to live as long as in mom's womb. Why cannot you say it straight. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-9-1 (#4656025@0)

He claim he is a Christian, however he does not follow the God's word. but he would like to get the vote from Christians. -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 (#4654318@0)
Because he claim he is a Christian, however he does not follow the God's word. but he would like to get the vote from Christians. It makes the question tough for him then. -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 (#4654322@0)

Well, guess I will have to wait till tomorrow. This question is for all the interested people. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-8-31 (#4654102@0)
At the time when egg incepted with sperm, it is a beginning of new life, it consists of body, soul and spirit. -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 (#4654315@0)

When baby has the right of a human being in mother's womb? - my answer will be when the sperm incepted with the egg. -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 (#4654305@0)

Thanks for your answer, particularly a straight one. -calgarian(拥抱爱的梦想); 2008-9-1 (#4656029@0)

this is a typical Christian answer too. Because we belive that God made human beging and we have no right to abort baby. -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 (#4654306@0)
Obama claimed he is a Christian. but ...... i can understand why so many people still doubt he is not Christian. -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 (#4654310@0)

without belive, policy can changed easiier, person can change their mind easier. 老马与小奥不同。老马为实现理念而搞政治，因而一向择善固执(至少是他认为的“善”)；小奥则为搞政治而修正理念，一切视选情风向而定。理想主义与机会主义较量老马与小奥不同。老马为实现理念而搞政治，因而一向择善固执(至少是他认为的“善”)；小奥则为搞政治而修正理念，一切视选情风向而定。理想主义与机会主义较量 -spruce(toastmaster); 2008-9-1 {148} (#4654324@0)

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