Topic: 美国大选：OBAMA 已经在3个最关键的州领先Folrida, Ohio, Pennsylvania，都在50%以上。Palin 已经成了美国人民的开心果，希望周四辩论有更精彩的节目。FoxNews让人很反感。 @华人论坛:枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of

枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 美国大选：OBAMA 已经在3个最关键的州领先Folrida, Ohio, Pennsylvania，都在50%以上。Palin 已经成了美国人民的开心果，希望周四辩论有更精彩的节目。FoxNews让人很反感。FoxNews让人很反感。本人看了一些他们的节目，主持人政治倾向极强，偏向共和党。辩论中，对反对者无端打断。有人整理相关片断放在网上。 -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 {127} (#4733847@0)

“Palin 已经成了美国人民的开心果.”. What a wonderful expression! Did you watch the news a female anchor was slashing a Canadian Journalist of CBC for her blog downplaying Palin? That was really harsh. -axe(Just A Joke); 2008-10-1 (#4733862@0)

Yes I saw it. I don’t want to comment on the language she used, as I am not good at that. But you can tell the feeling a Canadian is trying to express. This means, not only Americans, lots of foreigners don’t like her so much. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 (#4733906@0)

"Her"? Are you talking about Heather Mallick , Palin or the Fox blue-faced anchor (angry) lady? -axe(Just A Joke); 2008-10-1 (#4733920@0)

Heather Mallick, who on her blog, called Sarah Palin supporters “WHITE TRASH”. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 (#4733939@0)

The same way you feel about FOX. People making the news are just like us. See some people on Rolia use extreme language? -axe(Just A Joke); 2008-10-1 (#4733946@0)

The current circumstance will be the best chance for Obama to grab president seat. Add oil Obama！。。。 -noproblem(。o O); 2008-10-1 (#4733872@0)
那是你没看cnn他们是怎么偏向民主党，尤其是obama的，做人不能太cnn，已经有这话了吧 -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2008-10-1 (#4733891@0)

最偏向民主党的是NBC. 民心向背，没有办法，大多数的媒体都是偏向民主党的。但是做事方式不同，办实事讲道理，或者幽默笑话。FOX 主要是主持人讲一气（有许多不真实的东西），然后被邀请来的Panel 都不让说话。 -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 (#4733928@0)

Glad to see you are telling some truth. -axe(Just A Joke); 2008-10-1 (#4733940@0)

That's the same tone from those FOX guys. FYI, I am always telling the truth. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 (#4733951@0)

应该说世界各国自由媒体都是偏向左派的，中国解放前也是如此。文人气质，做事理想化，愿意唱高调的当然都去媒体发展了。要不老嘲笑保守派是红脖子没文化呢。这跟民意关系不大 -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2008-10-1 (#4734002@0)

The US media are controlled by the same group of people who control Wall Street. From the begining, they favored Obama over Clinton, and now favored him over McCain. Does this tell you something? -omega4(omega); 2008-10-1 {550} (#4733977@0)

Lack of fundamental basics. Media in any country is being controlled by big corps, government directly or indirectly. Wall Street does not have the power to handle. Wall Street works for the big guys. -axe(Just A Joke); 2008-10-1 (#4733991@0)
I am not sure whether there is a group who can control media and wall st. If they had control over both houses, how come the bill was not passed. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 (#4734004@0)

I can see you are telling truth here. -axe(Just A Joke); 2008-10-1 (#4734008@0)
The ties between money and politics in US is nothing new. Most of the congressmen are millionaires who collect millions of dollars of campaign funding from the big corporations.The only reason so many voted no is that they were bombarded by the people in their constituents who threaten to vote them out of office in Nov if they vote yes to the bailout plan. In order to continue collecting money, they need to keep their jobs first, right? The corruption in the US shows that a previously well-functioning
democracy can turn bad if the people don't keep an close eye on their politicians, and severe the ties between money and politics. -omega4(omega); 2008-10-1 {462} (#4734084@0)

What you have said is a good proof that those congressman need to listen to the people in their constituents. However, I don’t see any thing prove that they are working for certain groups.Agree with you about "keep an close eye on their politicians".
Don't agree about "severe the ties between money and politics". These situation is more often happening in non-democracy counties, i.e. China. Because nobody can keep an close eye on them. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 {257} (#4734427@0)

I don't necessarily believe every thing on the wsws website, but articles like this provide some good info on the 'pay structures' of US politicans. -omega4(omega); 2008-10-1 {486} (#4734500@0)

There some politicians who has strong believes and want to implement them. Somebody want this job just for the $1 paycheck government gives them.Not all of them a rich, for example, Joe Biden. And lots of them are already millionaires before they become senator or congressman.

I have to say Chinese officials have the tradition to make money from their power. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 {219} (#4734562@0)
政治和利益勾结是社会的基本模式，没什么奇怪的。如果社会上层结构还需要通过贪污受贿这种模式来获得财富，那这个社会不是太贫穷就是太不稳定。执政者急于套现。有政策的平台，将这个社会弄得风风火火才是稳定收益的保证。
问你一个问题，你个人人为拨款救市是正确的还是错误的？ -kingsw(Steven); 2008-10-1 {110} (#4734567@0)

I think the bailout is certainly wrong and make the problem worse in the long run. They need to let the market sort itself out, to cleanup the mess, squeeze out the excess and bubble. -omega4(omega); 2008-10-1 {946} (#4734747@0)

看来应了一句老话。出来混始终要还的。不管如何，事件还没有结束。动作有了。等着看结果吧。 -kingsw(Steven); 2008-10-1 (#4735936@0)

The US elite circle want to elect someone who can be easily manupilated by them, and also can talk big to fool naive people. Bush fits their profile, and Obama fits their profile.Is there anything Obama did in the past that can prove he has the capability and courage to implement the tough changes he's talking about? Nothing. All empty promises and liberal idealogy. "We want to help Wall Street, also help Main Street, We want to provide public health care, also cut taxes and deficits. We want to keep troops in Iraq, and also expand them in Afgan"
Where will all the money come from sir? -omega4(omega); 2008-10-1 {417} (#4734048@0)

Your tone is not right! Anyway, I belive he can get the money by taxing the rich corporate and rich people, and creating green industry, and reducing expense from Iraq, and encourageing community services,and helping unemployed people back to work, so that they can contribue tax to the pool....
BTW, he won't keep troops in Iraq. -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-10-1 {128} (#4734079@0)

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