Topic: 各位有原来在国内搞老建的吗？现在在加国能搞老本行吗？ @华人论坛:枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of

老建是什么?我有个朋友, 两个人都是做建筑的, 一个工民建, 现在在一家设计所画图, 年薪2万多;另一个是建筑学,仍在找工作. 不过, 据他说, 他的主要问题是英语.这里的设计所很多, 同国内的比起来都很小, 几十个人的就算大了. 虽然机会少, 但竞争的人也少. 只要英语过关(尤其是对于建筑学), 应该可以找到本行的工作. -bloor(bloor); 2001-4-27 {143} (#55175@0)

Sorry, that's all I know about her. I believe her English is much better than her husband. -bloor(bloor); 2001-4-27 (#55196@0)

I am not sure. I know he printed a lot of his former works (in color) and take them to interviews. I guess the works are more important. -bloor(bloor); 2001-4-27 (#55220@0)
职称证书没用，文凭（中英文）不能少。自己的设计作品非常有用。全都带上。 -guest:guest; 2001-4-29 (#56693@0)

As I know, even local guys major in architecture not easily to get a sound job . -bluespirt(聪聪); 2001-4-27 (#55210@0)

学建筑学的如果英语好找个工作还是有可能的. 但多是作施工图或表现图. 工资很低, 也没有什么前途. 国内的学历职称在这里认证非常麻烦. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-4-27 (#55544@0)

Can I seek advices on how to find the right channel to potential employer?I landed here three weeks ago, looking for job right now, low salary never mind, I want to be a draftman although I have no experience.I have site experiences in two high-rise projects in China and experience in Singapore governement housing developer. -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-28 {117} (#56350@0)

Junior positions rarely get advertised in the papers. But you may want to try the Star Classified, under "technical help". Sometimes there are draftsperson positions there.A better way is to just sit down with a telephone book and start calling all those firms under "architect". Or you can go to a library and find a copy of the OAA (Ontario Association of Architects) directory.

There are also websites that may have "employment opportunities" sections. You may want to start with www. oaa.on.ca. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-4-28 {334} (#56414@0)

Thanks. I'll try. I have comfidence in my language ability (I worked for a singapore governemnet agent for nearly five years) andI have confidence in my technical competence( I participated two high-rise construction projects in China and these experience made me commited to the industry),but I have no experience of drafting. Do you think I can practise by myself and then just tell them that I have done drafting jobs? -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-28 {292} (#56436@0)

They will probably ask for samples of work. By the way, you really like drafting? I don't quite understand. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-4-28 (#56597@0)

Thanks .you give me good idea of how to prove my fake experience. (no laugh). But it is not easy as I have have no real job done. Yes, I have wanted to go to a design firmsince my graduation, at that time I thought I could go to a design firm after I got som hand-on knowledge in construction company and was then defered by making money in singapore, so now I really want to make some change in my career direction. -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-28 {245} (#56617@0)

So what do you want to do? If you want to be an architect, maybe you should think about going to school instead, if you consider yourself young. I just can't see being a draftsperson with no drafting experience will lead you anywhere. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-4-28 (#56640@0)

why not a structure design engineer? -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-28 (#56647@0)

that's civil engineer, not architect. You have little chance to be an architect as new immigrant. -guest:lazycat; 2001-4-28 (#56654@0)
Wait a minute. What was your major? Architecture or Civil Engineering? -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-4-28 (#56656@0)

Then forget about what I have said. I thought you were looking for a job in Architecture. I don't know much about the job market for civil engineers. Sorry. -winterblue(winterblue); 2001-4-29 (#56711@0)

Thank you! I have sent an email to you. -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-29 (#56696@0)

I think my collegues in china design the at least 15 projects in five years. are you confidence now. I don't think so. -guest:kevin killer; 2001-4-28 (#56667@0)

I am technically competent, in a par with an exerienced site engineer of any country. -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-29 (#56709@0)

By the way, I want to ask if anyone of you have pirated copy of AutoCAD R14 or 2000, Landdevelopment,and Overlay. Want to learn drafting by myself. -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-28 (#56355@0)

you must have your own major. You only know autocad is useless. -guest:kevin killer; 2001-4-28 (#56671@0)

My major is Structural Engineering, Acturally some programs like Overlay, which is specificlly designed for architectural drawing, can only be estabished on a platform of AutoCAD. -1000yearssolitude(bifocals); 2001-4-29 (#56691@0)

我一个同学的表哥也是做工民建的，有新加坡的工作经验，来加一个月内找到本行工作。具体收入不知道，只听我同学说“现在比做计算机的稍低，考出牌后有七八万”。那个人据说已通过所有考试。 -fionah(fiona); 2001-4-27 (#55547@0)
国内学建筑，在这里找的工作多是drafter, 一般也就年薪2万多左右。据说考了牌年薪也不过4，5万。要想一来搞设计不太可能，事物所招人多数都要2-3年本地经验，还要懂当地的code. -guest:lazycat; 2001-4-27 (#55685@0)

by the way, after you get PEO when you pass some exam, your income will rise to 4~5k rpidly. -guest:yunboo; 2001-4-29 (#56750@0)
问题是人家门都不让你进，哪还有机会学code? -lazycat(lazycat); 2001-4-29 (#57098@0)

It's not bad for civil engineer, especially STRUCTURAL in US, but no idea ..in Canada, should be similar... For architects, the North America really sucks.... -guest:Structural Engineer; 2001-4-29 (#56735@0)
有在加国搞“施工、监理”的吗？情况如何？ -guest:guest; 2001-4-29 (#57102@0)

i am not interested in drafter,but it's better than labour,and i am not interested in IT too.what should i do -guest:guest; 2001-4-29 (#57137@0)

No one can give you an exact answer. It only depends on you. -lazycat(lazycat); 2001-4-29 (#57168@0)

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