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枫下佳缘 / 快乐单身 / To Mr. fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼): I have just finished reading your post, and thank you very much for sharing with me your opinion in an straightforward manner,even though I will not apologize for my English and writing English at Rolia, and will continue to enjoy my freedom of speech as much as you enjoy yours.
Wish you a happy New Year and a wonderful future in terms of relationship exploration and family life.
Sincerely yours,
Asker
-asker(asker);
2005-12-30
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"a straightforward manner"
-asker(asker);
2005-12-30
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说话太古板单调
-tap-tap(开闸灌水);
2005-12-30
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Asker,你看你这篇帖子的语法问题
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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我倒觉得她是先学了书面再学的口语，句式活象国内的官方翻译
-seinfeld(illusion);
2005-12-31
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You have perfect understanding of the difference between spoken English and written English. You are right that most of my posts are written English, and I still have difficulty with English slangs.But I learnt spoken English a bit earlier than written English.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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you are so funny buddy. I agree with none of your comments.
-sunding(sundin);
2005-12-31
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You.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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Thank you. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Thanks for your reply, even though I DO NOT agree with you on this point. My English is not the trigger that offends you, is it? You may need something else to help you contain your temper.Wish you have a good mood and happy life.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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这是我在ROLIA主页上发现的“其宗旨是帮助中国移民在加拿大更好地发展”。我想来这的大概都是中国人把，如果是能用中文是最好了。如果不能用中文(因为某些原因)我觉得也无可厚非。英文好坏都是次要。只要能沟通就行了，何必在意英文的好坏呢，不清楚说什么，你可以说他胡说八道，也可以问到底他是要说什么。他出招，你就拆招，我想这难不到你把。如果你不愿拆，你就走而远之。
-lostindarkness(lostpeople);
2005-12-31
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First, if Rolia is a Chinese-Only BBS, I would not write here, because my Chinese pin yin is terrible, my Chinese typing is extremely slow, and I only have the NJstar Chinese processor.But Rolia is a BBS in both Chinese and English, so I think I could write English as well as others.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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you are very conscious of self-defending
-lostindarkness(lostpeople);
2005-12-31
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I have no intention to defend myself. The mistakes that I have made in spelling and grammar are out there, and everyone can see. Why should I hide them?My point is that if you cannot convince me with reasonable professional knowledge,
I will not accept whatever you say, even though I appreciate it.
Do you think Mr. Fullmoonnight's attitude is polite, objective and civilized? Do you think we Chinese should learn from him?
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Don't you think defending yourself on a Chinese BBS is a waste of time? I think defending yourself and discussing with others are two different definitions. I think I am discussing with others.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Could you please tell me what you think of Mr. Fullmoonnight's attitude?
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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You seem lost your track,or do not know what you are saying here
-lostindarkness(lostpeople);
2005-12-31
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I do not care about what others think of me including Mr. Fullmoonnight, but I also said that I do care about if people respect each other. Haven't you read the second sentence that I have written?
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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You can write Chinese if you like. I can understand Chinese perfectly.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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In other words, Mr. Fullmoonnight has the freedom of speech and the right to degrade himself by using impolite and rude words, but he does not have the rigtht to degrade others including me. Got the point?
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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You sound a little "silly"
-lostindarkness(lostpeople);
2005-12-31
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"People can not be degraded by others, only by themselves." This is a great point, thanks. My point is that we may need to try to make the world more polite by telling others that we deserve respect.If we don't care about others' attitude, what will the world be? That might be why we need law and regulations to maintain our order and civilization.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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We do not tell/ask/force others to respect us, we have to earn it by doing something we call good. After that, it is up to others if they want to repect us or not.
-lostindarkness(lostpeople);
2005-12-31
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If you don't tell others that they are rude, they may think they are doing the right thing. Some people need to be told what respect is and why respect is so important due to their absense of common sense.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Good opint!
-bookworm(晕晕);
2005-12-31
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Do you think a civilized and polite world is born by itself? I don't think so. That is why we need to define the difference between respect and disrespect.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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I totally agree. Good. And your English is very good. Impressive.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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Really? Such as "behaviourS", "chinese"...I should stop here. I don't even know why I am doing this? :-)
-bookworm(晕晕);
2005-12-31
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He only had a few mis-spellings. Nothing major.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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英语写作,拼写错误扣分很少. 因为可以用Word做检查. 但是语法句法结构的错误会
让人得低分的.他的英文很干净,结构清晰,条理很好.一看就是经过专业训练的
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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Really? Like this "you care about others THINKING ABOUT you (I think we all do), and you like the good ONES, not the bad ONES" ???
-chachacha(茉莉花);
2005-12-31
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You are so cute. :-) I wanted to pointed it out too. But just ... You know, my point is that we are learning.
-bookworm(晕晕);
2005-12-31
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OK,I am chinese, I admit my SPELLING is not good, my GRAMMAR is not good neither. But I do not think it is necessary to check for those as long as I make myself clear here. Don't we all do this on the fly???
-lostindarkness(lostpeople);
2005-12-31
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"not .... either".
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2006-1-1
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It is Fullmoon who doesn't like reading English here, not me. You can certainly write in English if you'd like to.
-chachacha(茉莉花);
2006-1-1
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Do not get me wrong. I like good English as your guys wrote.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2006-1-1
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Here is an example. It is correct. "It's better that way, when you don't have to care about others thinking about you/". The whole article can be found here. ==>
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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How did you get that example, through Google? It is not a good one to follow, though. The better way to say it is "you care what other people think of you" rather than "care about other people thinking about you."
-chachacha(茉莉花);
2006-1-1
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Agree. I can see that you have a very solid English background. Why not join us as a English club member. We can learn from each other.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2006-1-1
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Like you and I are discussing with each other right now. We do not use impolite and degrading words, but objective and polite expressions to demonstrate our different opinions, which is a civilized manner in my view.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Not bad comments.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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Your English is much better than somebody's. Looks good.
-fullmoonnight(圆月夜.老狼);
2005-12-31
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Second, I have never said my English is perfect, and I have no intention to show off anything except sharing and exchanging my opinions with others. Why should I need to show off at Rolia, a BBS?
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Third, I don't think all comments of Mr. Fullmoonnight are wrong. I admit that I have made spelling and grammatical mistakes, but I don't fully accept his , because I may trust my own professional English teachermore than Mr. Fullmoonnight.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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hi, soooo nice to meet you here. Actually my guess is that your english is muuuuuch bettertnan me at least. Whatever other friends say, I strongly support you keep communicating in english. It's fun and easy to express one's feeling in one way or another, am I right?:)
PS:
Mr.fullmoonnight,
no offense
-once(chocolate);
2005-12-31
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Thanks, I have no intention to compete with anyone else in English though.:)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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记得simon说的那句话吗？你的老师有没有找你收钱？如果有，找他/她去refund.:-)
-kevin_tor(KFC);
2005-12-31
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I will definitely write English the way I have been, and post English at Rolia whenever I am on vacation and have time and energy. Are you going to 吐 again? Go ahead, and have a happy new year. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Just a reminder that do not 吐 at KFC. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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吐啊吐啊就习惯啦,我正在慢慢的习惯您的英语.:-)
-kevin_tor(KFC);
2005-12-31
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I am sincerely and profoundly touched by your spirit of persistence. Good boy. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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The end of my conversation with you. Thanks for continuously reading my posts while 吐.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Fourth, I appreciate Mr. Fullmoonnight's honesty in terms of sharing his opinion with me, but I may not accept his attitude. I think respecting others is the basic human courtesy, and Mr. Fullmoonnightmay need some improvement in this regard.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Mr. Fullmoonnight absolutely has the right to comment on my posts, however, in a more polite and civilized manner.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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"however, I would appreciate it more, if he could express himself in a more polite , objective and civilized manner."
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Fifth, does Mr. Fullmoonnight genuinely care about whether I write English or not or whether my English is good or bad? I have no clue, just that if he does have issues other than my English,he may need someone else for help. All best wishes.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Just BE YOURSELF, Asker. I believe there are many people support you. I actually made a lot typos and grammar mistakes too. I welcome all critique, and will defend myself if I wasn't wrong.
-bookworm(晕晕);
2005-12-31
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Thanks. Actually I don't really care about what others think of me in terms of English or other things. Life is busy, and I am pretty much absorbed in my own world.I just step out of my world a bit to some Chinese BBS on vacation. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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我终于没忍住，吐拉。
-kevin_tor(KFC);
2005-12-31
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如果用英语表达您的意思，我会这么说
-haoxia74(haoxia);
2005-12-31
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Thank you very much for your input. Yours is more conversational, meaning yours is spoken English. Different people have different writing styles. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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I am not a grammar expert, so that I may not be able to provide you with my own comments on your grammar analyses. My suggestion is that learn English by reading academic and formal English booksinstead of burying yourself in grammar.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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Or do not learn English by chatting on line with others.
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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I like your attitude.
-bookworm(晕晕);
2005-12-31
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Yeah, his/her attitude is polite, objective, constructive and civilized. And most well-educated Chinese have this attitude. :)
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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I actually forgot to add " except the last setence". :-). I just don't like that some people tell others what 'should do'. It is more polite to state your reasoning and make a point. And letothers decide what to do.
-bookworm(晕晕);
2005-12-31
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Absolutely. We may use "my suggestion is..or my opinion is.." to replace "you should.."
-asker(asker);
2005-12-31
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asker, 真的不敢多读你的english, 好不容易学会的英语 都快被误倒成你的 chinglish .....真的..只能用'别扭'来形容你的... 不过, 你的勇气可夹..不是说,学语言就要大胆说写...但最好在本地人面前....OR, 误导咱们新移民了
-redlobster(nuxia);
2005-12-31
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A good point. Thanks. I apologize for my wording.
-haoxia74(haoxia);
2005-12-31
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