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枫下拾英 / 乐韵书香 / 你们听广播的时候，Demi Moore这个demi, 重音在前还是在后面？另外今天听一个音乐台的的主持把Enya念做：ee - nia, 第一次听有这样念的，有趣。
-canadiantire(轮胎-pax et lux);
2006-11-6
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刚问了一下同事，读ee-nia; 我知道这样读，我女儿的名字就是这样的。 xinya 英文读xi--nya
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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de-mi` 重音在后，猜的，？
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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重音在前
-mybrat(time goes by...);
2006-11-6
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又去问了一下， 重音在前。
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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我听到电视上是demi`重音在后，好几次了．尤其是美国人．
-canadiantire(轮胎-pax et lux);
2006-11-6
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语音有一现象是, 短音与长音比较, 重音落在长音上可能性大一点. DEMI MOORE这一名字, 可以说DEMI两音节都弱, 重音在姓上, 因为MOORE含长音节.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2006-11-6
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don't trust broadcasters, i caught them pronouncing names wrong many times
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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a related point, in general, English is pretty bad for pronounciation. Only English speeking people would call Roma "Rome". Much worse than the Chinese translation "罗马"
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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一个是拉丁语系, 一个是日尔曼语系, 差很多的, 能挪过来用就已经不错了. 播音员没错啊, Enya除了那样发, 难道真的有人发成"恩雅"? OMG!
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2006-11-6
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I think it's more than that. Somehow I get the feeling that these English speaking people do not care too much about getting the pronounciation right.That's why I have persisted in using my Chinese name in my workplace, so that I have many chances to tell them the RIGHT way to pronounce my name. Now most of my collegues can pronounce my name perfectly right. So, if we give them the chance, they WILL learn. :))))
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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you might as well raise a panda here too
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2006-11-6
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i see. but sheldon is also cool ~
-lifesucks(选择你最喜欢的昵称！);
2006-11-6
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yes, that's for people who speak Chinese. Otherwise it would be too simple and boring, right? :)
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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wait, how do you pronouce "sheldon" in english? aww it's so hard! Your name poses problem for both english and chinese ppl.~~
-lifesucks(选择你最喜欢的昵称！);
2006-11-6
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As far as I know, it's a french name, and I actually don't know how to pronounce it correctly myself.
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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是，据说Enya的网站上就说应该念做en - ya, 另外Google了一下，Gaelic 的念法更有趣 aan - gra
-canadiantire(轮胎-pax et lux);
2006-11-6
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请教paulo coelho的姓怎么念?
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2006-11-6
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不知道，Google 了一下
-canadiantire(轮胎-pax et lux);
2006-11-6
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英文名变成意文时都要被加上元音, 象Jane->Giovanna, 单音节变成了3音节, 意文变英文时自然就要用减法. :)
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2006-11-6
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omg u r so erudite~
-lifesucks(选择你最喜欢的昵称！);
2006-11-6
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no, she is a "learned scholar".
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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我怎么觉得象在骂我?
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2006-11-6
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No, I would not dare to!I think "learned" is just the English way of saying "erudite", which is from Latin.
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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回字有几种写法？ 你们这些老学究和小学究？我们这双语区，常常混用：
如：麦克/米西尔
圣劳伦斯/圣罗ruang~~ 等等
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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are you kidding?你是基丁吗?
-modaolaotou(长谷川);
2006-11-6
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好久不见,好豆油豆?
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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我是瑟瑞思！语言发音就这么形成的。English people看到Frech标牌，就按英语发音，反之已然；久了就都被认同了。
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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非也. 讲究约定俗成只是Anglo Saxon的传统. (最早的牛津词典里没有定义, 只有例句). 法文则要严格得多. 就象英国的法律是以案例为依据, 而法国的法律是以大法典为基础一样.
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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how to pronounce "Micheal" and "Francios" as a name in English?"Micheal" 我认识的两个，一个叫麦克， 另一个叫米歇尔；不过我说的是英语，不是法语；
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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You just don't----if they are French names. Wouldn't it be nice to pronouce it in it's orginal language?
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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As a practical matter, when I say Vienna to Austrian, they don't know what I am talking about.
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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because you were speaking English which they don't understand. But all the English speaking people do.
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2006-11-6
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They understood English, just not Vienna.
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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这样啊. 正在想象Sutherland唱英文的歌剧时会是怎么个唱法. :)
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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所以她干脆不唱.
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2006-11-6
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For instance, the english way of saying "beethoven" is far off from the german urtext. I confirmed with my German friend the correct pronouciation should be something like "BEE-TOE-FEN".The chinese translation actually comes closer to it.
-lifesucks(选择你最喜欢的昵称！);
2006-11-6
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......and many Americans pronounce Bach as "back".
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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怪不得老迷用KLASSISCHE, 不用classic, 肯定是Susan Songtag "Against Interpretation"的拥泵.
-goingconern(GoingConcern);
2006-11-6
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That sounds like a very sophisticated "interpretation". I like it......even thought I've never heard of Susan Songtag
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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难道我们一直念的BAY-TOE-FEN还不是正宗德语发音?
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2006-11-6
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No, it's not 'BAY-TOE-FEN', it's BE [BAY without the Y sound] TUO [not TOU] FENTrust me, I studied German for 2 years
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2006-11-6
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I trust you. With Beet and Furt in your heart, you must've been a high drive learning machine to learn German. :)
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2006-11-6
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俺学德语倒跟古典音乐没关系。大三选修二外，俺那时侯对法国文化特着迷，觉得法语很优美，一门心思想学法语，结果选法语的全班只有俺一个。大部分选修日语，后来听说有去德国的名额，又都选了德语，最后也没去成
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2006-11-6
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有意思的是，那时侯觉得法语优美，德语难听。现在反过来了，觉得德语铿锵有力，法语撅着嘴拿强拿调，难受。
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2006-11-6
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哈哈, 我当年也曾修过法语, 刚上了第一堂课就想着到了法国可以整天看原版的雨果, 伏尔泰, 波德莱尔, 布尔巴基什么的, 结果课没修完就糊里糊涂地去了美国, 唉......
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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牛人啊，俺当年学了没去成，老迷没学完就去了...
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2006-11-6
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一点也不牛, 多年向往的法兰西没去成, 却去了"没有文化"的美利坚, 到现在还耿耿于怀呢!
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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不是"Bay-Toe-Wen"? Why the "V" in Beethoven does not pronounce as "W"?
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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Is that a quiz?In Deutsch, 'v' is pronounced as 'f', not as 'w'.
For example:
für das deutsche Vaterland !
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2006-11-6
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no, an earnest question哦. 因为'W'读"V", 我还以为反之亦然呢.
-klassische(老音乐迷);
2006-11-6
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哦，俺一见老迷问德语问题就紧张印象中老迷是德国通...
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2006-11-7
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