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枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 都说加拿大是多元文化, 这位女士的话很有挑战性啊: Why is this country bending over backwards to please every minority and why are we changing an established way of life so that people aren't offended?
-coolmao(酷猫);
2006-12-13
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我坚决支持她!!!!加拿大过于强调多元了,谁的利益都要照顾,最后谁都没有得到什么.昨天电视新闻还讲到一个申请难民还是什么的受到"刁难",移民部说对遇到这样情况的人表示SORRY,但这是我们的法律(做饭时听的,不一定准确).这是一个国家机构的正确态度.
-hhorse(hhorse);
2006-12-13
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你现在是属于少数族裔吧??
-jacky2001(beyond);
2006-12-14
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是的,我是少数族裔.我选择到移民就选择了新的生活环境,OPEN TO CHANGE.不是说少数族裔不应该受到尊重,而是现在在加拿大确实有点太过了.
-hhorse(hhorse);
2006-12-14
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If you are strong, you change the world; if you are weak, you compromise. That's how Franch and English people brought their world in and replaced Aboriginals'. That's also why Chinese people always sing a song to accommodate into the major society.50 years later, who knows what colour tone would be of the major society? I respect every culture, but I love and persist my way, a Chinese way, and always take an honor of that, no matter where I choose to live.
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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“there is going to be a major backlash to all of this political correctness and catering to minority groups.”但愿不要秧及池鱼.
-calgarian(ThanksFlames);
2006-12-13
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我也最注意到这句. 读了有没有后背隐隐发凉的感觉?
-coolmao(酷猫);
2006-12-14
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No, my 后背 does NOT 隐隐发凉 at all. :) Believe it or not, the future of Canada is in the hands of Minority and the Minority's home countries.
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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democracy means minority should be supported and protected....see inside...please.
-webbwebb(rr_rolia);
2006-12-14
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A while ago on a Sunday night, if people paid attention, they would notice a lot fireworks popping through all night, that was the Sikh people celebrating their holiday.
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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我不明白你为什么问"when have you seen Chinese people allowed to play fireworks in Canada?"允不允许放烟花和种族肯定无关。只是中国人还记不记得放烟花这事了，因为在中国的大城市里可以放烟花已经是很遥远的事了。
-vicky2005(孩子她爹);
2006-12-14
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Yes, Chinese people are forgetful and changeable. They are chasing western culture too much and don't know how much tradition left remembered than Taiwan people? A nation lack or losing of tradition and characters is a misery and tragedy...
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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这位加拿大女士不就是不想看到加拿大变成A nation lack or losing o of tradition and characters 吗?
-hhorse(hhorse);
2006-12-14
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Sorry, I am not a Canadian yet, I am still a Chinese. The nation here I mentioned is not a country, it's something about nationality and blood race.I am always a Chinese nationality in my blood. I hope Chinese people can carry on their prestigious and precious tradition. Canada is an immigrant country. It doesn't have much tradition, one of its characters is multiculture. It's not losing anything.
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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保持自己的传统文化并不等于要大同别人.我理解的多元文化应该是各种文化元素都包容,但不等于一个国家没有个主流文化.移民来自各种背景,一夫多妻国家来的人要把几个老婆都移民,加拿大是否也该尊重他们的习俗,承认他们的婚姻,允许他们在加拿大一夫多妻?
-hhorse(hhorse);
2006-12-14
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Let's talk about the topic 50 years later:)
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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非常赞同hhorse说的
-uwsofia(淡淡的兰花);
2006-12-17
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you should read more books about the canada history.
-rowyourboat(摇呀摇);
2006-12-14
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I am all ears:) Please go ahead.
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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胡说，今年春节我在北京就放了很多烟花。
-tornet(老枪);
2006-12-14
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支持。入乡就应该随俗嘛。
-rollor(Rollor);
2006-12-14
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Does this mean minority immigrants deserve to be discriminated while job hunting?
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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这是两回事
-vicky2005(孩子她爹);
2006-12-14
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What's the difference?
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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入乡随俗和找工作受歧视怎么是一回事呢？
-vicky2005(孩子她爹);
2006-12-14
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So what is the so-called 入乡随俗? On which part, we should 入乡随俗, and which part, we should not? How many negative things happened, are happening and will happen to minority in the name of 入乡随俗?
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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如果光从找工作这一点说，至少要把英文说好, 按这里的方式与人沟通。
-vicky2005(孩子她爹);
2006-12-14
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I agree, but how can a person 把英文说好 without enough support from the government, if she/he happens to be a poor parent who has to support her/his children?
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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"把英文说好"是属于personal achievement , skill or ability的范畴的.Distinctions between people which are based just on such individual merit are generally not considered socially discriminatory.
-rowyourboat(摇呀摇);
2006-12-14
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I wonder what she would write, if she happened to be a minority.
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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well, well, well, see how many Chinese (members of minorities here) wrote that many comments with this kind of attitude. even in Rolia, even on this thread, look back #3376590@0
-table(桌子来了);
2006-12-14
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Thanks, sister. :) Yeah, sometimes I just cannot help feeling ashamed of how some minority people have internalized the oppression and discrimination against them in the name of so-called 入乡随俗.
-asker(amour);
2006-12-14
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Hands:)
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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新媳妇进了大家庭,小姨子受委屈了.
-647i(流浪的步行万里);
2006-12-14
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公立学校由居民付钱，大多数信啥就该弄啥。问题是大多地区，C教确实不占主流。
比如有些十家报的学校，80%是大陆学生，就该过春节。有些私立犹太学校，100%犹太人
当然得过他们节日。
-tornet(老枪);
2006-12-14
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同意。入乡随俗。
-triton(melancholy);
2006-12-14
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" kids can't enjoy Christmas in the schools anymore" Christmas好像是假期吧. 学校不开门
-pkwong(rrrloiaaa);
2006-12-14
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我对她的话既同意也不同意。
-havefun(havefun);
2006-12-14
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Fortunately, she's just a minority who just cannot face the reality. I believe most Canadians have chosen to live in a multicultural society and respect the different cultures and religions.I think she is one who shoud look for a life elsewhere. But I feel sorry for her because there aren't many such places to choose in today's world.
-sinbad(Seven Seas);
2006-12-14
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看来这女人不象是少数族裔. 她说的东西有的偏激, 有的还是有些道理. 比如说开party, 别人开别人的, 你开你的就是了, 你们的人不组织, 可不是人家不让你开, 怪谁呀? 只要在不妨碍别人的前提下, 你想开什么party, 开就是了.同样道理, 信基督的有Christmas也应该让人家保留自己的传统, 什么holiday tree, winter concert, 听着都别扭, 那些教派也太欺负人了!!
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-14
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俺觉得, 多元文化的做法是, 不同文化的人都可以按照本文化的习俗过节, 但是把圣诞节圣诞树改名, 不是政治正确的做法. 西人也没有逼着我们把春节的名称改掉啊.
-sailor(新年晚会我演啥);
2006-12-14
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这事和咱们中国的春节没啥关系，是那些不喜欢基督教的教派，不爱听Christmas这词。其实学校方面也不一定就怎么样伤她们的感情了，比如我儿子的学样日历上就写着：
Merry Christmas to families celebrating Christmas,
Happy New Year and Happy Holidays to all !!!!!
-cuecue(cuecue);
2006-12-15
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Holiday是一个中性词，不伤害任何人的感情，无论是majority还是 minority都可以有自己的特色的party,而不要求别人一定要用自己的文化来命名这个公众节日，即便是多元文化，minority还是或多或少的不断改变自己来适应这个社会，majority有责任提供这样一个平台使minority在这里和他们共同生活，为加拿大作出更多贡献，正是这样一个原则，才吸引新移民在这里安居乐业，仿佛当初那些殖民主义者试图改变殖民地的生活方式时，他们自己也在或多或少的改变，现在正好反过来了。
其实我也是一个基督徒。
-rainiherby(水源泉香);
2006-12-25
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如何把握住一个度, 对政治家来说也是很难办的事情.
-humormaster(没有);
2006-12-27
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