May I ask a technical question? "他儿子的血救赎世人" makes me think of human(child) sacrify, which had been abundoned long and deemed not good. Can we category Jesus's crusification as a child sacrify?He is God's son and God planned all this, right?
-win(秋天的菠菜);
2007-12-27(#4145690@0)
speaking of 救赎人类,this question haunts me all the time:why wouldn't God just forgive human?(could be a win-win situation),instead He made a great deal of it by sacrificing His Son(could be a lose-lose).why?He is Omnipotent and Almighty after all.
-win(秋天的菠菜);
2007-12-27(#4145727@0)
上帝可以一开始就控制人不吃那个果子，为什么没有？上帝为何造人？在上帝面前，人是什么角色？为何有撒旦摧残约伯的一幕？为什么上帝不一下子灭绝撒旦？我的理解是：
人是上帝的Plan，上帝要通过人来灭绝撒旦。
上帝造人，但因为人，撒旦得到了世间权柄；上帝通过圣灵指引世人，但世人没有遵从旨意，结果出现了洪水灭绝。洪水之后，上帝通过耶稣来救赎世人，更准确的说，是通过耶稣的血来救赎世人。而耶稣也成为通往上帝唯一的路。神是three in one。
"上帝要通过人来灭绝撒旦"? why would He? He is almighty and omnipotent. Why not just destory Satans? Satans are just bad angels,piece of cakes for God.
-win(秋天的菠菜);
2007-12-27(#4145786@0)
上帝没有直接灭绝撒旦，这是事实，其原因是人类无法理解的。一个人都不能理解另一个人，如何理解上帝？这里面没有piece of cakes那么简单。人在吃了禁果后，撒旦就得到了现世的权柄，其中有深意。人不该在这个问题上多究，不会有结果的。圣经里没有任何“直接”的提示，但绝对有明确的说明。
-wloo(凉咖啡);
2007-12-27{50}(#4146323@0)
"其原因是人类无法理解的". God created human giving us limited capacity of understanding Him. But how can we fullfill His expectation without fully understanding Him?One key question here: I believe the majority of human being do not understand God too well. Is that because Satan working on us to prevent us from understanding God, or it is just because we were created without that capacity? From what you just said, there are quite a lot things that human are not suppose to understand.
-win(秋天的菠菜);
2007-12-27{323}(#4146382@0)
Also,human are God's creatures.He would ultimately hold responsible for the quality of human race.(I really do not have much confidence about that quality personally).Yet He blames and punishes human being.Yes, I understand human being as a whole disappoints Him. But then maybe there is an implication of human were not created good enough to fullfill His expectation?
-win(秋天的菠菜);
2007-12-27{163}(#4145800@0)
又是一些人类无法理解的问题。上帝给人自主权，现在尤其是。上帝造人的目的不是为了“hold responsible for the quality of human race”，否则也不会有洪水灭绝。人在现实的一切境况是人自己选择的，不是神的惩罚。现世的权柄在撒旦手里，如果你认为现世有什么黑暗，应该针对的是撒旦。神的福音正是指引你脱离黑暗。
-wloo(凉咖啡);
2007-12-27{94}(#4146341@0)