Topic: 大家在这讨论（或者说争论）到底是选保守党还是选自由党，都不必太“激烈”。其实在这儿谁也不可能说服谁，所以也就不必试图说服谁，只要交流就好了。 @华人论坛:枫下论坛 The Rolia Forum of

枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 大家在这讨论（或者说争论）到底是选保守党还是选自由党，都不必太“激烈”。其实在这儿谁也不可能说服谁，所以也就不必试图说服谁，只要交流就好了。其实有人支持保守党，有人支持自由党是再正常不过的事了。毕竟每个人的喜好，利益，看重的事情等等都有不同。每个人都把自己的观点视角摆出来，再了解（不一定赞同）别人的观点视角，何必非要说服别人呢？ -barbarian(粗人); 2008-9-23 {190} (#4711983@0)

You are right. But I don't think people here are trying to convince anyone because we all know it will never happen. But it feels so good to beat on those stupid people (like that Nazi and Omega4).People like 钉子户 I still respect them abit because they talk with something to backup occasionally. But Nazi an Omega4 are just retarded. -chsung(SevenPower); 2008-9-23 {139} (#4712227@0)

左派喜欢帽子和打人。右派就不如了，上年纪的多。有人讲，30岁前不是左派是没良心，30岁后不是右派那是没脑子。 -cconservative(cconservative); 2008-9-23 (#4712251@0)

兄弟不幸都干过。当年左，没多少人左的过我。现在右，嘿嘿。希望保守党一统江湖。 -cconservative(cconservative); 2008-9-23 (#4712273@0)

I think the truth is: Poor不是左派是没良心，Rich不是右派那是没脑子。 But anyway, I am before 30. So I still have 良心. As for brain or no brain after 30, it really depends on what kind of brain you are talking about..If the brain is used to manipulate and to play people, I would rather be no brain. -chsung(SevenPower); 2008-9-23 {82} (#4712269@0)
你就是没有脑子的典型，不用拐着弯骂人。克林顿JFK布莱尔都是30以后的左派，布什是30后的右派，哪个没脑子？ -z333(z333); 2008-9-23 (#4712274@0)
无论左右的定义都是很肤浅的东西，左右是西方社会划分阶级的产物。在今天看来这种划分已经远远不能解释社会的复杂性了。以前一般说左派比右派贫穷些。但是看看现在的西方政党，谁比谁更穷？ -kingsw(Steven); 2008-9-23 (#4712322@0)

Most of us just discuss issues. But all you are doing is throwing personal attacks on anyone whose views you don't like. This tells a lot about what type of person you are. -omega4(omega); 2008-9-23 (#4712262@0)

I have said it already. I will give you evidence when I call you an idiot. For example, you are an idiot because when I throw you data and analysis you choose to ignore and start to ask me to swim to China.And that Nazi is not just an idiot. He is an asshole just because he is a Nazi. Got it? -chsung(SevenPower); 2008-9-23 {87} (#4712275@0)
Don't bother talk to an idiot!!! 降低身份。 -ttttt(左卍 or 右卐); 2008-9-23 (#4712303@0)

Why am I an idiot, Nazi? And aren't you busy hiring someone to fuck my mom? What a fucking loser! Chicken shit! -chsung(SevenPower); 2008-9-23 (#4712310@0)
go die, you nazi. -z333(z333); 2008-9-23 (#4712316@0)

其实该选谁选谁，每个人都有一笔帐，从个人利益出发，匹配自己的价值观。争论也就是图个热闹，谁也不能真的说服谁。反正最后选票说了算。投票就是要学会输了认账。像我，没有投票权不是还在这里瞎凑合。 -kingsw(Steven); 2008-9-23 {36} (#4712333@0)
这哪儿有说服吆，满眼都是骂服呢。一人一票而已，唉。 -mdl(看幸福家庭做单身真好); 2008-9-23 (#4712344@0)
大选不论谁输谁赢，都是政治家们的游戏。各党派无论是哈帕，Dion，林顿在现实生活中都是很体面，很受人尊重的政治家。用人身攻击，泼污水那些手段来支持自己选择的党派，本来就是对被支持者是一种抹黑。 -szs11(钉子户); 2008-9-23 (#4712362@0)

一味不顾事实的否认，把人家说的事实说成是泼脏水，你的人品才是最有问题的。还好大家网友有目共睹，到底谁的人品有问题。 -z333(z333); 2008-9-23 (#4712376@0)

“哈帕去攻击伊朗”是事实？他说都没说过。不过是有人臆想出来的东西而已，这个叫事实，那可能你需要先把字典给改了。 -szs11(钉子户); 2008-9-23 (#4712420@0)

这个是根据事实做出的推断。保守党推崇扩军是事实，推崇美国主导的北美军事一体化是事实。这些你可以去找资料。美国想攻打伊朗是事实。根据推断，哈珀很可能会跟随美国出兵伊朗。这是根据事实做出的判断。没有发生的事情肯定不是事实，但不代表是造谣。 -z333(z333); 2008-9-23 (#4712538@0)

人家说的就是这个意思，你连这个都搞不清楚，我也没什么好说的了。到底谁不讲理，我觉得很清楚了。 -z333(z333); 2008-9-23 (#4712550@0)

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